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Stolen VA data may have been erased
Associated Press ^ | June 9, 2006 | HOPE YEN

Posted on 06/09/2006 8:13:26 AM PDT by driftdiver

Stolen personal data for 26.5 million veterans and military personnel may have been erased by teenagers who sold the computer equipment, Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson said Thursday.

He explained that the burglary occurred in an Aspen Hill, Md., neighborhood in which there had been a pattern of thefts by young burglars who took computer equipment, wiped them clean of the data and then sold them on college campus or high schools.

"We remain hopeful this was a common random theft and that no use will be made of this data," Nicholson said. "However, certainly we cannot count on that."

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This may be a little bit of good news for those of us effected by the poor computer security at the VA.
1 posted on 06/09/2006 8:13:30 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Unless, of course, they heard on the news what was on the computers after they stole them....


2 posted on 06/09/2006 8:14:53 AM PDT by mwyounce
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To: driftdiver

But it also may not have been.


3 posted on 06/09/2006 8:16:10 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: driftdiver

Cross linking bump thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1636391/posts
Key Data on Millions of Veterans Stolen!


4 posted on 06/09/2006 8:16:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: driftdiver

It's a guess. They have nothing to go on other than 3rd hand stories that other thefts of PC's ended up that way. Nicholson is assuming that's what happened, but he has absolutely no evidence of it.


5 posted on 06/09/2006 8:16:52 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: driftdiver

According to a lawsuit each vet wants $1,000 to compensate them for the loss which add's up to 25 Billion - quite a mess.

BTW - no one lost there jobs over this.


6 posted on 06/09/2006 8:18:14 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: driftdiver

That was a major oops, interesting theory tho. If they get off this easy, luck is all it is.

Time to check the local flea markets.

Ya get the best deal on used hard drives at flea markets and garage sales. It's the 30 nanosecond Extended warranty that sells folks.


7 posted on 06/09/2006 8:20:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: driftdiver

"Poor security at the VA"--How about the complete lunacy or shall I say lack of brains all the way up the "food chain" in our government? I can't believe all the things they asked when I got a security clearance and here we have lunatics taking secure data home. What a joke!


8 posted on 06/09/2006 8:20:53 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: mwyounce
Unless, of course, they heard on the news what was on the computers after they stole them....

The delay in reporting the missing data might have aided in keeping the perps from knowing how valuable the info on the computers was. Some criticize the VA for not revealing the loss sooner, but it might have kept the info out of harms way...assuming that it hasn't been discovered.

9 posted on 06/09/2006 8:21:49 AM PDT by kaboom
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".....erased....."

Hope and pray this is the outcome.

"....no one lost there jobs over this....."

Hope and pray this is NOT the outcome!

10 posted on 06/09/2006 8:22:51 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: driftdiver

This unidentified bureaucrat didn't take home information on 26.5 million vets by accident. And I don't believe that someone "just happened" to break into the guy's house while the data was there.

After they fire this idiot, they need to keep tabs on his finances.


11 posted on 06/09/2006 8:23:35 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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BTW - no one lost there jobs over this.

Not yet--the guy who "lost" the data is in the process of getting fired.

12 posted on 06/09/2006 8:24:27 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: edcoil

I don't want $1000, I want them to use that money to fix their damn problems and tell me the name of the S***bag who had the data in the first place in violation of established procedures.

And the group filing the lawsuit is some fringe, lefty group that I want no part of.

If you're saying noone in the VA lost their jobs over this, that's not true. (IIRC) The analyst who took the data has been fired and some midlevel manager quit.

SZ


13 posted on 06/09/2006 8:34:43 AM PDT by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: DoctorMichael

I heard there was one VA official that was let go.


14 posted on 06/09/2006 8:51:11 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Yeah, after it was copied a billion times...


15 posted on 06/09/2006 8:54:01 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: driftdiver
This is such an egregious violation of common security practices that whoever took this stuff should be made an example of.

See #12 also.

16 posted on 06/09/2006 8:55:47 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

The real fault lies with the VA. Sound policies would prohibit storing of this data on a laptop in the first place. If he needs to work from home let him VPN in and work on the server. That can be done securely although it would be better to keep it on the closed internal network and not VPN.

Mostly likely this guy was just trying to get the work done and make the VA better for us. Unless he's been trained he probably never realized the risk he was taking with our information. Critical data should only be stored on a secure server and any connections to that server should be controlled.

Maybe I should call the VA and see if they want some help. :)


17 posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:17 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

And they just happened to steal computer stuff...how much more work can a person do at home, with data on millions of people, that he can do at work?


18 posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: mwyounce
They said news of the theft was deliberately delayed in order to *not* alert the crooks. However...

Stolen personal data for 26.5 million veterans and military personnel may have been erased by teenagers

If anyone would think of searching a hard drive for useful info and copying it, it's teenagers...
19 posted on 06/09/2006 8:58:54 AM PDT by swissarmyknife
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To: SZonian
And the group filing the lawsuit is some fringe, lefty group that I want no part of.

You could be right if it's Larry Klayman and his Judicial Watch

20 posted on 06/09/2006 8:59:36 AM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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