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Neanderthals Were Not Stupid, Just A Bit Anti-Social
Scotsman ^ | 4-10-2006 | Ian Johnson

Posted on 04/10/2006 2:45:19 PM PDT by blam

Neanderthals were not stupid, just a bit anti-social

IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT

"CRUDE, boorish and slow- witted" - even dictionaries give Neanderthals a hard time. But our prehistoric cousins were in reality just as smart as we are and did not die out as a result of a lack of brain power, according to a new archaeological study.

Until now, the leading theory of why the Neanderthals disappeared has been that a lack of intelligence meant they were less efficient hunters.

But a team of US archaeologists believe they met their evolutionary end because of a failure to maintain social links with other groups, unlike modern humans, who travelled widely, making the friends who would help them during hard times.

Working in the Caucasus region of modern-day Georgia, the scientists discovered evidence of highly skilled hunting behaviour by the Neanderthals that required an understanding of yearly animal migration patterns and the planning of traps to catch them.

But they also found there was a crucial difference between Neanderthals and homo sapiens. The Neanderthals tended to be anti-social, staying in small hunter-gatherer groups, while the sapiens were "routinely" travelling distances of 60 miles and meeting other groups.

This meant that if an area became hunted out or a more powerful rival took over, the Neanderthals had no-one to turn to while the modern humans did.

Dr Dan Adler, of Connecticut University, who led the study, which appeared in the journal Current Anthropology, said: "Any individual Neanderthal, I don't imagine, knew more than 20, 30 or 50 people. That's by virtue of the fact they didn't get around as much. Maybe they didn't want to. Modern humans seem to get around a lot. They were routinely covering distances of at least 100km.

"If you find yourself in an area where the resources just aren't there any more - it's a bad season or you have killed all the game - you need to move into another territory where other people are. If you don't know them the chances are they are not going to like that. Modern humans would have known these people."

Neanderthals seem to have had little interest in their appearance, compared to modern humans, a sign that group identity was not something they considered to be important.

"We have no indication that Neanderthals really paid much attention to who other people were and they didn't try to signal to other people who they were," Dr Adler said.

"Modern humans were obsessed with this. They were spending a lot of time and energy on how they looked. They cared more about how they looked and were more style conscious."

However, this lack of fashion sense should not reflect badly on their intelligence, Dr Adler said.

"It's fairly clear that Neanderthals were pretty smart. They could hunt just as well [as modern humans] and they had expert knowledge about the environment," he said.

"Put you and a Neanderthal in the woods and the latter would probably survive a lot longer.

"It's within the social realm where modern humans have an advantage. I think they knew more people and lived a richer life in terms of cultural contact than the Neanderthals did. But they were both smart."


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To: blam
This meant that if an area became hunted out or a more powerful rival took over, the Neanderthals had no-one to turn to while the modern humans did.

I think more likely is that if some neanderthal invented something cool like a crossbow, the technology would not spread. Wheras with humans, if one person knew, they soon would all know.

Further, most invention are the result of previous inventions. If you don't talk to each other, technology slows to a standstill.

21 posted on 04/10/2006 3:02:42 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: blam

"Not COOL, man. NOT cool!" (LOL)

22 posted on 04/10/2006 3:02:51 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !! BUILD THE WALL! PROTECT OUR BORDERS!)
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To: HumanitysEdge

I can't believe I once read all those boring Jean Auel novels! ugh!


23 posted on 04/10/2006 3:03:22 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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To: blam

Interesting item. No matter what the reason(s) for Neanderthal's extinction, it may be noteworthy to add that they were around longer than we have been around to date. :)


24 posted on 04/10/2006 3:04:35 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier

we are they.


25 posted on 04/10/2006 3:07:34 PM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: blam
"Neanderthals Were Not Stupid, Just A Bit Anti-Social"

I don't want to oversimplify this, but I'm pretty much convinced that this whole problem of Neanderthal extinction was caused by out of control body odor. After all, who in their right mind would sleep with a Neanderthal who smelled like a goat and had "livestock?"

26 posted on 04/10/2006 3:09:27 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: blam

Maybe they died out because Neanderthals didn't like spam.

27 posted on 04/10/2006 3:11:27 PM PDT by FreedomFarmer (If R<1ohm, Resitance is Futile!)
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Thanks Blam.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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28 posted on 04/10/2006 3:12:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam
"The Neanderthals tended to be anti-social . . . "

If you don't like it you can all go f*** yourselves.

29 posted on 04/10/2006 3:14:17 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: cll
“That's soooo condescending.”
30 posted on 04/10/2006 3:14:29 PM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: blam

Seems like genetic mixing might also play a role. Human gatherings would have allowed for a broader selection of mates, some years before the internet. ;->


31 posted on 04/10/2006 3:15:22 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: blam
Put you and a Neanderthal in the woods and the latter would probably survive a lot longer.

That is true.

32 posted on 04/10/2006 3:19:12 PM PDT by fanfan ( We have become the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world.)
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To: blam
"Neanderthals were not stupid, just a bit anti-social..."

"Hey ... I RESEMBLE that remark!!!"

33 posted on 04/10/2006 3:23:30 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: blam

Are you absolutely certain that they've all died out? I know quite a few people who care nothing about the way they look, but are pretty good with their survival skills.... ;^)

Some of them dress in camo and blaze orange!


34 posted on 04/10/2006 3:31:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Renderofveils

"Does this loincloth make me look fat?"

Only if you already have cankles.


35 posted on 04/10/2006 3:38:35 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: blam

36 posted on 04/10/2006 3:38:38 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Neanderthal

LOL!!!


37 posted on 04/10/2006 3:43:02 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - There's no problem on the inside of a person that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Continental Soldier
"Interesting item. No matter what the reason(s) for Neanderthal's extinction, it may be noteworthy to add that they were around longer than we have been around to date. :)"

YEP

38 posted on 04/10/2006 3:49:28 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ack!!!

Funny though that it took 35 posts before you thought of it!


39 posted on 04/10/2006 3:56:00 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty ("This is our Common and we're going to stay here until we leave!" - Random Boston Commie)
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To: CougarGA7

I'm glad you posted this. Can you (or anyone) please explain this commercial to me?

40 posted on 04/10/2006 4:09:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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