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LIVE THREAD: President Bush's State of the Union Address 2006 9:00 P.M. EST
Free Republic ^ | January 31, 2006

Posted on 01/31/2006 3:48:34 PM PST by Howlin

9:00 P.M. EST!!!

It's a great day to be a Republican!!!!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; alito; borders; bush; bush43; cindysheehan; democracy; demresponse; dictatoreradication; energy; energysecurity; eyebrowes; guestworker; ignobleguests; itscelebrationbhes; kaine; keyboardspooge; lineitemveto; livethread; mommamoonbat; mothersheehan; newcular; nucular; oil; soldiers; sotu; stateoftheunion; term2
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To: Calpernia
"Democrats win when they act strong"

I am proud to say that I can't be accused of gender discrimination when I say, "Democrats are girlie-men." :)

5,501 posted on 02/01/2006 8:18:46 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Howlin

5,500 replies! Whoa! I wonder what the FR record is for replies on a single thread.


5,502 posted on 02/01/2006 8:19:05 AM PST by Lekker 1 ("Computers in the future may have only 1000 vacuum tubes..." - Popular Mechanics, March 1949)
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To: ohioWfan

Can you two call a truce or take the rest of it to FReepmail? Please?


5,503 posted on 02/01/2006 8:21:33 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Eaker
You said:

He just called for illegals.

Quite simply put, you're lying:

Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values, and serves the interests of our economy. Our nation needs orderly and secure borders. (Applause.) To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. (Applause.) And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border. (Applause.)

And I notice that you didn't bother to include this part:

that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border.

You know, the part where he said LEGAL, not ILLEGAL, like YOU SAID.

You lied.

5,504 posted on 02/01/2006 8:21:57 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: pbrown
I'm talking about what the President said.

You had to infer that he was saying something he didn't say. I was just listening to the words he used. Illegal immigrants are CALLED illegal immigrants. The rest of us and our ancestors are called 'immigrants.'

There is a very big difference between what you did and what I did.

5,505 posted on 02/01/2006 8:22:15 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: anonymoussierra

GWB rocked last night!


5,506 posted on 02/01/2006 8:26:06 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: SandRat
Hey Cindy:


5,507 posted on 02/01/2006 8:30:21 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: ohioWfan

He did not say...'legal immigrants' nor did he say...'illegal immigrants', only immigrants. That leaves it up to our own interpretation of which set of immigrants he was talking about. Since we don't seem to have a problem will legal immigrants storming our borders to get across and dying in the desert of thirst, why bring up the subject at all then unless it was in reference to illegals?


5,508 posted on 02/01/2006 8:31:54 AM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: sageb1; kajingawd
I think it's fair for me to find out on this very public forum why he lied on this very public forum about what the President said last night.

It's not any form of personal feud. It's a matter of principle in defense of truth and what the President said.

I'd like to see him defend his lie right here, if you don't object.

I don't take kindly to deliberate deceit no matter where it comes from.

5,509 posted on 02/01/2006 8:34:39 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: pbrown
You're making a whole series of presumptions there, p.

If you wonder why he brought the subject up, perhaps you should ask him.

5,510 posted on 02/01/2006 8:36:04 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Howlin
I suppose we should be encouraged that these folks have to lie about what the President said to be able to criticize him for last night's speech.

It was so powerful that you have to make things up to gripe about it.

5,511 posted on 02/01/2006 8:38:03 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: sageb1

Agreed!

BTTT


5,512 posted on 02/01/2006 8:40:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Howlin

I defined what he parsed. There is a difference.

I have no problem with immigrants.

I have a problem with illegal aliens and he doesn't.


5,513 posted on 02/01/2006 8:45:51 AM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: pbrown
He did not say...'legal immigrants' nor did he say...'illegal immigrants', only immigrants. That leaves it up to our own interpretation of which set of immigrants he was talking about.

Interpret this:

Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values, and serves the interests of our economy. Our nation needs orderly and secure borders. (Applause.) To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. (Applause.) And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border. (Applause.)

Stop lying, pbrown; you're better than that.

5,514 posted on 02/01/2006 8:46:34 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: ohioWfan
You're making a whole series of presumptions there, p.

As are you. Your presumptions are on one side of the interpretations and mine the other side. What you're saying is your interpretations are correct and mine are not. Why is that since we are both left to divine what he meant with such a nondescript word as immigrant. There are two meanings to that word, illegal and legal. He stayed in the middle of that argument by just saying immigrant, not committing to either one.

Just go over FR's articles on illegal immigrants. That's the hot button issue in our country today, not legal immigrants.

5,515 posted on 02/01/2006 8:47:11 AM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Howlin

The Rats sealed their own fates by cheering their own failure to act on a broke system.


5,516 posted on 02/01/2006 8:49:29 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: pbrown
Pointless to continue this.

I am not making presumptions. I heard what the President actually said, and I am not 'interpreting' it according to my own worldview.

You should try it some time.

5,517 posted on 02/01/2006 8:56:42 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
Hey ohioWfan,

I notice you are still having trouble with someone who does not listen very closely to speeches. Do you know that that is how some rumors get started? Poor thing. Keep up the good work.
5,518 posted on 02/01/2006 8:59:28 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: hole_n_one; onyx; Howlin

I heard on CNN Headline this morning Sheehan wasn't in the House chamber because of the t-shirt she was wearing, and she's still under probation. Violating Congressional dress code carries a penalty of 1 year in jail.


5,519 posted on 02/01/2006 9:01:02 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

What?


5,520 posted on 02/01/2006 9:02:36 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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