Posted on 01/31/2006 3:48:34 PM PST by Howlin
I am proud to say that I can't be accused of gender discrimination when I say, "Democrats are girlie-men." :)
5,500 replies! Whoa! I wonder what the FR record is for replies on a single thread.
Can you two call a truce or take the rest of it to FReepmail? Please?
He just called for illegals.
Quite simply put, you're lying:
Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values, and serves the interests of our economy. Our nation needs orderly and secure borders. (Applause.) To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. (Applause.) And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border. (Applause.)
And I notice that you didn't bother to include this part:
that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border.
You know, the part where he said LEGAL, not ILLEGAL, like YOU SAID.
You lied.
You had to infer that he was saying something he didn't say. I was just listening to the words he used. Illegal immigrants are CALLED illegal immigrants. The rest of us and our ancestors are called 'immigrants.'
There is a very big difference between what you did and what I did.
GWB rocked last night!
He did not say...'legal immigrants' nor did he say...'illegal immigrants', only immigrants. That leaves it up to our own interpretation of which set of immigrants he was talking about. Since we don't seem to have a problem will legal immigrants storming our borders to get across and dying in the desert of thirst, why bring up the subject at all then unless it was in reference to illegals?
It's not any form of personal feud. It's a matter of principle in defense of truth and what the President said.
I'd like to see him defend his lie right here, if you don't object.
I don't take kindly to deliberate deceit no matter where it comes from.
If you wonder why he brought the subject up, perhaps you should ask him.
It was so powerful that you have to make things up to gripe about it.
Agreed!
BTTT
I defined what he parsed. There is a difference.
I have no problem with immigrants.
I have a problem with illegal aliens and he doesn't.
Interpret this:
Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values, and serves the interests of our economy. Our nation needs orderly and secure borders. (Applause.) To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. (Applause.) And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border. (Applause.)
Stop lying, pbrown; you're better than that.
As are you. Your presumptions are on one side of the interpretations and mine the other side. What you're saying is your interpretations are correct and mine are not. Why is that since we are both left to divine what he meant with such a nondescript word as immigrant. There are two meanings to that word, illegal and legal. He stayed in the middle of that argument by just saying immigrant, not committing to either one.
Just go over FR's articles on illegal immigrants. That's the hot button issue in our country today, not legal immigrants.
The Rats sealed their own fates by cheering their own failure to act on a broke system.
I am not making presumptions. I heard what the President actually said, and I am not 'interpreting' it according to my own worldview.
You should try it some time.
I heard on CNN Headline this morning Sheehan wasn't in the House chamber because of the t-shirt she was wearing, and she's still under probation. Violating Congressional dress code carries a penalty of 1 year in jail.
What?
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