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Thanksgiving Dinner Family Debate: Liberals vs. Conservatives
National Ledger ^ | 11-23-05 | Chris Davis - Commentary

Posted on 11/23/2005 9:37:58 AM PST by smoothsailing

Thanksgiving Dinner Family Debate: Liberals vs. Conservatives

By Chris Davis

Nov 23, 2005

Thanksgiving is here!  Many people are preparing for that feast of turkey, dressing and pumpkin pie.  Some are packing clothes and making plans for their flight or drive.  Others, though, are spending time with friends and family, recalling the fond memories of better days during their childhoods.

But most conservatives, however, are gearing up for that once a year visit from their liberal Uncle Phil or Aunt Sally.  Amidst the conversation, they'll be forced—through dirty looks from their spouses or a gentle hand placed on the knee—to ignore the claims of the illegitimate war in Iraq and on terror.  They will grit their teeth when their liberal relative drifts down memory lane and proclaims that Franklin D. Roosevelt was the greatest President of the United States.

They'll choke down peas, dressing and turkey as they hear the same old refrains about how everything wrong in America is Bush's fault.  They'll have that extra glass of wine when their liberal counterparts start spouting about how Roosevelt would've saved America as he did with the New Deal.  They'll be subjected to endless tales of wastelands and soup lines, and how, in FDR's infinite wisdom, he brought prosperity to the country.

And when conservatives have stomached enough, they'll remind their liberal relatives how in the first year of the New Deal, Roosevelt proposed spending $10 billion while revenues were only $3 billion, and how, between 1933 and 1936, government expenditures rose by more than 83 percent as federal debt skyrocketed by 73 percent.  

They'll remind their relatives about how Roosevelt created the first entitlement in 1935 with Social Security, and how he strangled a free market economy with a minimum wage law in 1938, hurting the very people he was proposing to help: the poor, the unskilled and minorities, by putting them out of work.  They'll attempt to explain how Roosevelt raised income taxes on corporate dividends, and they'll also remind their relatives why, if F.D.R. was such a great president, it took him so long to bring the country out of depression.

And in their Thanksgiving struggle, conservatives will fail to convince their relatives, because in their relatives' minds, FDR's honor will not be impugned.  He was far too great a president and is not to be besmirched on this day of Thanksgiving, a day when there are millions of needy poor in America.  They'll have another glass of wine as their beloved liberal lectures them on Bush spending more money on Iraq children than American children.  They'll keep harmony until their relatives have gone home and they return to their jobs.

They'll go to work and drive America like they always do.  They'll perform at their very best while their liberal coworkers complain about how their greedy boss is sticking it to them and how he or she isn't paying them enough.  They'll advance up the corporate ladder, and get job after job done while their liberal coworkers are worrying about a flu pandemic.

Conservatives, in their indefatigable diligence, will keep the American economy moving, advocating for more of their own money and less government intrusion.  They'll turn on their radios, log on the internet and call their favorite talk show hosts in support of America's finest that are deployed across the globe.

They'll support the war on terror, remembering the words of Patrick Henry, "If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained we must fight!"

And when the Democrats start calling for a withdrawal of troops in Iraq, conservatives will remember the words of President George Washington, "Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and show the world that a free man, contending for his liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth."

They'll advocate for the Nativity scene as America nears Christmas.  They'll suffer through liberal indignation when a Christmas tree goes up in the middle of town.  They'll tell their children about Santa, never forgetting about the real meaning of Christmas: the birth of Jesus Christ.  

When liberals are having temper tantrums about the separation of church and state, conservatives will remember the words of John Adams, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Most of all, conservatives will remember the words of Daniel Webster, "God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it."

It is conservatives that I am thankful for on this Thanksgiving Day, November 24, 2005, these men and women that love liberty, the men and women that use the Constitution as a guide, never forgetting its principles in their daily lives, and holding their senators and congressmen's feet to the fire.

These conservatives come in all races, colors, creeds and worship different religions.  They are, at their very essence, the heart of America.  They perform their duties with unabashed vigor.  They represent the best America has to offer and keep coming back for more.  They come from all walks of life, and hold patriotism sacred.  They are never what the mainstream media covers, but are what America is and what it should always strive to be.  They personify every notion the Founding Fathers had for America.

They are represented by men like Rush Limbaugh—a man that execute liberal lies with impunity, brandishing an army of 20 million listeners.  They are also represented by men like Tom DeLay—a congressman fighting tyranny in the Travis County District Attorney's office, and by Congressman Mike Pence, trying to cut pork in a bloated budget.  

They are exemplified by women like Ann Coulter—an author that destroys liberal lies with her brand of conservative truth.  They are molded in men like David Limbaugh, fighting against the liberal persecution of Christianity, and in men like Tim Marvin, a business genius that only longs to return to the concepts of America's core: conservatism.  They are best represented in the new media by Free Republic, a forum dedicated to ending socialism and tyranny's grasp on America.

On this Thanksgiving Day, I am truly thankful for all the conservative men and women that make a difference in America.  They should be saluted for wishing to return to the concepts of the Founding Fathers.  They should be respected and admired for admonishing liberals at every turn in the road.

And they should be thanked for fighting the good fight, a fight to return to our American roots.

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Chris Davis is the author of Elective Decisions and In Defense of Liberty, two political thrillers from the Whiskey Creek Press.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: JulieRNR21
Happy Thanksgiving, Julie! :)
141 posted on 11/23/2005 11:37:10 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: expat_panama
I appreciate it, but I've got my own boat! It's in post#1 ! :)

(So you still gotta get me a Festivus present!)

142 posted on 11/23/2005 11:43:32 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; writer33

Hey.. here you are again! great. thank you both. I am doing the Thanksgiving Thread for Finest & will link this.. good read.

Have a great Thanksgiving!!!!


143 posted on 11/23/2005 11:43:51 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: smoothsailing

BTW.. Rush has been talking about how to deal with Libs during holidays


144 posted on 11/23/2005 11:45:08 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: smoothsailing; writer33

"And they should be thanked for fighting the good fight, a fight to return to our American roots."

And we all should thank YOU for all of your uplifting, insightful writing......always looking at America as a land of infinite possibilities......the glass is always half full
as Ronald Reagan and Rush Libaugh would put it.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mrs. Davis.


145 posted on 11/23/2005 11:45:42 AM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: DollyCali
Happy Thanksgiving, Dolly!

(Please Ping me to the thread when you have time!)

146 posted on 11/23/2005 11:49:12 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Lady Jag

Holy C***!

Why would anyone eat that?

I mean ok, be a "vegan" (i really hate that term, it sounds so....wussie), but ewwwww!


147 posted on 11/23/2005 11:53:06 AM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: smoothsailing

Thought you might like this Turkey recipe from rightwinghowlerblogspot:

This works just as good on chicken, too.

When I found this recipe, I thought it was perfect for people like me, who just are not sure how to tell when poultry is thoroughly cooked, but not dried out. Give this a try.


BAKED STUFFED TURKEY

10 - 12 lb. turkey
1 cup melted butter
2 cup stuffing (Pepperidge Farm is good.)
2 cup uncooked popcorn (ORVILLE REDENBACHER'S LOW FAT)
Salt/pepper to taste

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Brush turkey well with melted butter, salt, and pepper. Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn. Place in baking pan with the neck end toward the back of the oven. Listen for the popping sounds. When the turkey's butt blows the oven door open and the turkey flies across the room, it is done.


Who says men can't cook?!?!?!

H/T: Ralph

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148 posted on 11/23/2005 11:54:50 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (God bless America , President Bush and our brave troops!)
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To: JulieRNR21

GOSH thanks Julie!! Now I don't have to worry about overcooking my turkey!!


149 posted on 11/23/2005 11:59:27 AM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: stuartcr
Do people really talk about that kind of stuff at the dinner table?

Sure, but I won't sit down and eat with a liberal...

Then again, I usually eat with military people, LEOs or some family (which are often one in the same)...

150 posted on 11/23/2005 12:01:23 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: exile

BWAHHHAHHA!!!

I just ruined another keyboard....


151 posted on 11/23/2005 12:02:42 PM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: Lil'freeper

Ping


152 posted on 11/23/2005 12:09:21 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: saveliberty

ROFLMAO? I'd be PMGO!


153 posted on 11/23/2005 12:34:58 PM PST by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: exile
You'd want to lick a baby seal to get the tofu taste out of your mouth!



Tofu out of the package looks like lard
~and tastes worse~

154 posted on 11/23/2005 12:43:44 PM PST by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: calrighty
BARFMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is truly wretched.

155 posted on 11/23/2005 12:44:39 PM PST by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: smoothsailing; writer33
Chris I really enjoy reading your works. You are an asset to Freerepublic.com, IMHO>

I can't wait to read what you will come up with next.

Happy Thanksgiving!

156 posted on 11/23/2005 12:46:11 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: Miss Marple
1. It is always democrats who bring up the political arguing. They somehow feel compelled to insult and ridicule the President and conservatives in a family setting.

Conservatives tend to be idea motivated whereas liberals tend to be emotion motivated...so when it comes to family "discussions" liberals are less able to control their topics because they are functioning on an emotional level and not an intellectual level.

157 posted on 11/23/2005 12:46:35 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: alarm rider
You nailed it, vegans are wusses who made up that name for their wusseness. Vegans I know started out as really too cheap to eat meat and then developed a lifestyle out of it. It works great for their cheapness...We went to dinner there once and will never go again!

Soy/tofu is absolutely hideous. Everything they eat that is not a real vegetable is soy. They have no idea how such a diet can ruin their health in the long run and they have less of an idea that they are buffoons in a marketing ploy for the cheapest/most profitable crop on earth, soy.

And the most disgusting part is soy is made into fake milk, bread spreads, cooking oils hot dogs, cold cuts, sausages, burgers, etc., and it's ALL SOY!

BARF FOR SOY!!
158 posted on 11/23/2005 12:53:23 PM PST by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: Lady Jag

Looking at that hideous heap of bean curd, I can see only one use for it:

A target. I think a .12 gauge would really splatter that c*** a good distance.

The picture is stomach churning. I thank you though, I have just found one more thing to be thankful for on Thursday.


159 posted on 11/23/2005 12:58:56 PM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: Calpernia

That's one grateful bird. But she appears to think she was pardoned by Bill Clinton.


160 posted on 11/23/2005 1:06:04 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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