Roswell Smoking Gun, the Ramey Memo - (explosive new proof;UFO crash N.M. 1947; gov't cover-up!)

UFO CASE BOOK.COM ^ | JUNE 28, 2005 | DAVID RUDIAK

[Junior]

The truth is out there.

And so's the author.

[keysguy]

Hey if you don't believe that's fine. I have been researching, reading reviewing everything including nasa videos of objects that streak across the horizon, stop i mid-air and streak off the other way after we fired a lazer at them for years. It took me over 10 years to change my frozen in time mind. But, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[keysguy]

Yeah I gotta admit looking around earth with all the brilliance I see we have to be the ultimate beings. How could there be anything of higher intelligence than us, talk about barf alert!!

[snarks_when_bored]

How does our level of intelligence bear on the question of whether Earth has been (or is being) visited by space aliens?

[keysguy]

Just trying to be logical. The bottom line is that millions of people in every country in the world all believe that we are begin visited by extraterrestials. I do too after 30 years of study. I you don't it's your privilege.

If I ever retire I will delve even deeper for physical evidence which i believe exists.

[Nik Naym]

What is unlikely is that Ramsey would be carrying around a telegram he SENT.

(I can't believe I clicked on this silliness)

[keysguy]

Another time another era 1947 it's very possible.

[snarks_when_bored]

If you're trying to be logical, I respect that. But you must beware of falling into the trap of the non sequitur. From the vastness of the cosmos and/or the meagerness of our own intelligence, it does not follow that there exist beings elsewhere in the cosmos who are more intelligent than we are and that these beings have visited (or are visiting) Earth.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. For example, I have no doubt that Char and her family saw something quite unusual and not easily explained. But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows. Perhaps they are, but such reports are very far from establishing it.

[snarks_when_bored]

But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows. Perhaps they are, but such reports are very far from establishing it.

That 'extraterrestrial' needs an 's' on it. So to speak.

[keysguy]

From my own standpoint, my own opinion, I can't speak for anyone else, after reading books, seeing videos,photos,t.v.,radio of just a few of the more famous episodes I have become convinced we are being visited.

The following are just a few of the stories that are floating around. Roswell,Shag Harbor in Canada-- where us and Canadian govt.s tracked a ufo underwater for 7 days,two big ones in russia-- one that set off a nuc then 10 seconds later it went back to normal all equipment checked out nothing wrong, and another where a huge forest was leveled in the early 1900's in Siberia.More in Las Vegas a few years ago with huge ufos flying over the city the same in Mexico city for weeks, Texas in "1897" where every major newpaper carried a story of a ufo crash and Brazil where a doctor operated on an alien after another crash.

I feel if it walks like a duck just maybe its a duck.

[evets]

I don't think they're a 'joke', I'm not 'making light' of it,
and I didn't refer to you as 'tin foil hat idiot'.

but thanks for your reply anyway...

[CyberAnt]

No it's not "more bizarre".

You can believe in your little green men if you want .. but I'm not buying it.

[ozzymandus]

Are you sure that memo didn't come from Downing Street?

[CHARLITE]

" I didn't refer to you as 'tin foil hat idiot'."

I didn't think you meant me. I didn't take it personally. I was just commenting on how people who have never had any experience with UFOs or even with abductions (which are just too numerous to discount), should not be denigrating those who have had these experiences.

Thousands of individuals, who are geographically separated, and also differing in time by decades, who have experienced what I did, watching the spacecraft and little craft over 15+ minutes (and other phenomena) can't all be "crazy" or hallucinating!

That was my only point.

One should maintain at least a neutral attitude toward phenomena of which one does not personally have knowledge.

Thanks for your comment.

Char :)

[CHARLITE]

"I have no doubt that Char and her family saw something quite unusual and not easily explained. But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows."

Well then, how would any rational person "logically explain" a giant disc-shaped mothership suspended, motionless some 1,000 to 2,000 ft. above a treeline, while countless (2-3 dozen) tiny baby craft move in, around and out of an eerily-lighted aperture in the base of the mothership......and then in a matter of SECONDS, all of the small craft are vacuumed up and into the aperture, which closes; - seconds later the mother craft zooms off at a 45 degree angle into the crisp, clear February night sky. One or two more seconds, and it's gone - vanished!

As a rational observer, the very least I can say is that such a sight reveals NOTHING that is aeronautically possible within our known technology. If it's unknown on our planet, then the conclusion must be that it's from outside of our planetary environment.

Just simple deduction, Mr. Watson!

To me, it is an expression of simple humility to conclude that there are many mysteries that we can't solve right now; many things we don't know. However, I know what I and my 5 children saw, and there is no way on God's green earth that I can "unsee what I saw" - let alone rationally explain it, either as an optical illusion or a "secret government test program" (taking place above a treeline on my property in Massachusetts, no less!!)

Char :)

[CHARLITE]

P.S. I also might add that mockery, ridicule and scorn are standard responses from people, in many instances, which they use (often unconciously) to mask an innate reaction of fear. . . . fear of the unknown and unexplained.

It makes people feel more comfortable, if they can laugh off a mystery which might.......just might.......be a reality, and which could.......just could.......alter their lives, if proven to be hostile (i.e. "not of this world" - ergo, "alien!")

Char

[zot]

Here is a link to some original documents from the kool-aide factory. Especially, see General Twining's "White Hot" Report: Mission Assessment of Recovered Lenticular Aerodyne Objects, 19 September 1947

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/pre1948.php

[doug from upland]

Interesting. I had missed this.

[Fledermaus]

Call Dan Rather, I'm sure he has more memos.

[Dengar01]

Ping!