Deceit, Thy Name Is Islamism

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[jan in Colorado]

In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.

Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:

"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)

And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:

"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)

Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.

Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''

Sounds good so far.

But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.

This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.

Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?

I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'

In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.

This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.

So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.

The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.

Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.

The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.

[USF]

Now, if "istihlal" is all it takes to get a fatwa.... and just about any self styled Muslim prayer leader is capable of making one up, according this guy, like I asked earlier...

Why haven't there been hundreds of these fatwahs? Why only now? Why only one all these years later? When will they issue a bunch of fatwahs against killing Jews? Why will the issue fatwahs against wife beaters, jihadis and shaheeds? Hows about the Muslims who have been persecuting Christins, Jews, or others they deem as mushrikun?

[TexasCowboy]

"then putting them in internment camps is the logical outcome of your position."

You're barking up the wrong tree.

Jan gave us the answer. We must reeducate them to the love and grace of God, and pray for their salvation.
That does not mean interment camps. That means a massive blitz of the Muslim community with the Word of God.
We need missionaries in the field carrying the Gospel to the misguided ones.

If they won't listen, then "dust off the dirt from the sandals and go forth", but the seed will be planted. God's power will be at work in their lives.

I agree 100%. This is the answer!
We must change our thought process from eliminating Islam to supplanting Islam!

[USF]

PS.. personally, I would also like to see a fatwah against Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid over at Islam Q+A (the "ask the imam" site) or has he not transgressed into the realms of "istihlal?"

[USF]

So if they say anything that contradicts your view of them, they must be lying, right?

Do you deny the existence of the concept of Taquiyya and Kitman in Islam?

[Fred Nerks]

I hope you extend to the Hindu the same tolerance and acceptance you ask for islam.

[appalachian_dweller]

>> So if they say anything that contradicts your view of them, they must be lying, right? <<

So some research on the koran. The war-mongoring, baby-raping scum known as mohammad taught his misguided followers that is it okay to lie to infidels.

Do some reseach. Rereach this thread. They scum even have a name for it.

[appalachian_dweller]

Thanks USF!!! Much appreciated.

[ariamne]

Oh bull, that fatwa against bin laden four years after 9/11 is just window dressing for the media. And it doesn't necessarily even mean a call for his death.

I could care less what makes sense to you, since you are obviously simply a shill for islam. Now, I believe I just heard the howl to prayers. Grab your rug and run along now and stick your butt in the air, praying to your false God.

I'm done with you, I am not wasting my time on shills for islam anymore. You have nothing new to say, and nothing I haven't heard before.

Be gone.

[jan in Colorado]

You have made my day TC! You are right on target.

Jesus has the answer, not me.

a massive blitz of the Muslim community with the Word of God.

Crusade for Christ. Eliminate a lie with the Truth!

[ClearBlueSky]

You asked the question of ariamne, not I- but I'll answer it if no one else will.
Internment camps or deportation of EVERY LAST MUSLIM in this country.
Yes.
Their culture and 'religon' will dominate or ours will. While we have the upper hand we had damned well have the guts to use it.
We didn't differentiate between sick and healthy rats when it came to the plague, did we? Why not? Because it was about death. So is Islam.

[TexasCowboy]

All TBP wants to do is muddy the waters so that there can be no constructive conversation about a solution to the muzzie problem.
Like so many apologists on this forum, he talks with circular logic which defies any attempt to reach an end point.
He sees no problem because he refuses to read the facts which illuminates the problem.

I would much rather discuss Islam with an admitted muzzie, than one who pretends to be a Christian while subverting the principles of Christianity itself.

"Be ye hot or cold. If ye are luke warm, I will spew thee from my mouth."

[ariamne]

I do love your clarity. Good response, it was much better than mine!

[ariamne]

TC, I am just fed up with circuitous arguments with phonies who pretend to be Christians; or won't admit they are muslim. I just don't have the patience anymore.

What an awful day--Terry Schiavo, Jessica Lunsford's murder, and tomorrow I am going on a Protest Warrior rally against the anti-war commie creeps; where I will see plenty of his kind, in the form of the Muslim Student Group, an openly anti-semitic group who will be protesting against the war with their natural leftist allies. The last thing I needed tonight was smarmy arrogant sarcasm from a lurking member of TROP.

It's not that I can't debate them..tonight, it's that I WON'T. I leave his meandering smarmy nonsense for my fellow crusaders to dissect.

I love you all; have a great night. Wish me luck tomorrow and pray for me as I face off against the hundreds of anti-war and islamic New paltz students. Onward!

Ari

[TexasCowboy]

I will say a prayer for you, ari.

Don't let the scum beat you down.
If God is for us, who can be against us?

Have a good night, hon.

[Cronos]

May God bless America and keep her strong for our children and grandchildren.

Amen to that.

[Cronos]

I've seen the first two.

Let me guess, you were in that vile pit called Saudi Arabia.

[Cronos]

Do you Jorge, understand that Islam is an all encompassing way of life, that dictates to its followers everything they do from the moment they wake up the the moment they go to sleep? That its also a political system?

Another good point. Jorge: Islamm has no concept of 'give unto Caesar'. The Caliph is the head of politcial, social and religious life -- the first was Mohommad himself. To be a goodIslamist you must follow his example down to the lowest precepts, you must not watch TV (graven images) or listen to music (sounds of the devil) or trim your beard (because that's the way the Prophet kept it and you should emulate him). You must not educate your daughters but must marry them off as soon as they hit puberty and then they must be kept in the house and not allowed to venture out without a male member of the family.

[Cronos]

True, I've known a fewMuslims who would drink and party and be fun folks but I was always wary that they could be seduced by the evil of the cult at any time -- it's like a virus.

[Cronos]

Islam is incompatible with western democracy.

Nay, it's incompatible with civilisation -- its a kind of civilisational virus. Look at the civilisations its infected: Persia, Egypt, Syria and India (well, the western portion of India is completely diseased, it's also known as Pakistan). It ravaged those civilisations. Persia, once one of the noblest places under the Zoroastrian Shahs is now an Ayatollah run Iran.

[TexasCowboy]

"you were in that vile pit called Saudi Arabia."

And the UAE.

There's not a nickel's worth of difference in any of those MidEast countries.