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This article has evolutionary implications, i.e.:

Why do the fossil record and genetic data often give different times for when dprcies emerged?

For example, genetics evidense suggests that rats and mice split 41 million years ago. The fossil evidence suggests 12.5 million years.

The suthors developed a master equation that corrects for size and temperature on mutations. That correction puts the genetic and fossil divergence of species, including rats and mice in the same time frame.

1 posted on 02/20/2005 10:36:59 AM PST by furball4paws
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To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl

PH - this is hardly an evolution paper, but it does have evolutionary implications. It seems to be a slow day, so.....

AG - I know you math and biology.


2 posted on 02/20/2005 10:39:03 AM PST by furball4paws (It's not the cough that carried him off - it's the coffin they carried him off in (O. Nash -I think))
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http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050212/bob9.asp


6 posted on 02/20/2005 10:46:07 AM PST by big bad easter bunny (I live so far beyond my means it could be said we live apart.)
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Interesting piece; thanks for posting it!

I remember the 2/3 law well; a prominent Anthropologist, R. Carneiro, made an interesting argument/analysis regarding its relevance for social organization in the 1970s.

8 posted on 02/20/2005 10:51:35 AM PST by DrNo
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"dprcies" is the most creative spelling species I have ever seen; either that or I am a total loss of what you meant to type.

Just how big are you finger tips? (sd; re)

11 posted on 02/20/2005 10:56:43 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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I am always hitting two keys at once myself, and the wrong letter always come up or they arrive in pairs. :)


12 posted on 02/20/2005 10:58:09 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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"For example, genetics evidense suggests that rats and mice split 41 million years ago. The fossil evidence suggests 12.5 million years. "

Why assume one split? A split 41 million years exists in the genome, and one 12.5 mil is captured in fossils.

13 posted on 02/20/2005 11:02:11 AM PST by elfman2
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"For example, genetics evidense suggests that rats and mice split 41 million years ago. The fossil evidence suggests 12.5 million years. "

Hmm. I read that another explanation was proposed beyond what I suggested.

"The DNA of small, hot organisms should mutate faster than that of large, cold organisms, the researchers argue. An organism with a revved-up metabolism generates more mutation-causing free radicals, they observe, and it also produces offspring faster, so a mutation becomes lodged in the population more quickly.

When the researchers use their master equation to correct for the effects of size and temperature, the genetic estimates of divergence times—including those of rats and mice—line up well with the fossil record, says Allen, one of the paper's coauthors."

And I suspect there’s a lot more involved.
15 posted on 02/20/2005 11:25:26 AM PST by elfman2
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Excellent article. I just gave my copy of SN to my brother to read this article.


19 posted on 02/20/2005 11:47:36 AM PST by blam
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Life on the Scales
21 posted on 02/20/2005 11:51:13 AM PST by sourcery (Resistance is futile: We are the Blog)
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CO see the article on the spacing between trees.


26 posted on 02/20/2005 1:30:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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Ping.


27 posted on 02/20/2005 1:32:08 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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This kind of scaling is similar to fractal scaling where the power laws resemble fractional dimension. Mandelbrot would see that the forest acts like a single tree.


32 posted on 02/20/2005 3:21:53 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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The team plans to use its metabolic framework to investigate why the tropics are so much more diverse than temperate zones are and why there are so many more small species than large ones.

Most evolutionary biologists have tended to approach biodiversity questions in terms of historical events, such as landmasses separating, Kaspari says. The idea that size and temperature are the driving forces behind biodiversity is radical, he says.

They will have a hard time describing the high diversity found in the depths of the oceans. Very low termperature, primarily exothermic species, and a remarkably high diversity in sizes of species.

gitmo

33 posted on 02/20/2005 3:54:08 PM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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Fascinating! Now I know why my metabolism is so slow. I got too big.
34 posted on 02/20/2005 3:57:19 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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YEC INTREP


56 posted on 02/21/2005 9:26:12 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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Saw this on Piquepaille's blog today . . . Fascinating subject. Piquepaille also recommends that everyone "save some time to read another long article, Ecology's Big, Hot Idea, published by PLoS Biology, which states that 'the way life uses energy is a unifying principle for ecology in the same way that genetics underpins evolutionary biology.'" Well worth the read.
57 posted on 02/21/2005 2:41:38 PM PST by LibWhacker
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