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Mystery Of 'Chirping' Pyramid Decoded
Nature ^ | 12-14-2004 | Philip Ball

Posted on 12/17/2004 2:43:44 PM PST by blam

Mystery of 'chirping' pyramid decoded

Philip Ball

Acoustic analysis shows how temple transforms echoes into sounds of nature

El Castillo's strange echoes have fascinated visitors for generations

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A theory that the ancient Mayans built their pyramids to act as giant resonators to produce strange and evocative echoes has been supported by a team of Belgian scientists.

Nico Declercq of Ghent University and his colleagues have shown how sound waves ricocheting around the tiered steps of the El Castillo pyramid, at the Mayan ruin of Chichén Itzá near Cancún in Mexico, create sounds that mimic the chirp of a bird and the patter of raindrops1.

The bird-call effect, which resembles the warble of the Mexican quetzal bird, a sacred animal in Mayan culture, was first recognized by California-based acoustic engineer David Lubman in 1998. The 'chirp' can be triggered by a handclap made at the base of the staircase.

Declercq was impressed when he heard the echo for himself at an acoustics conference in Cancún in 2002. After the conference, he, Lubman and other attendees took a trip to Chichén Itzá to experience the chirp of El Castillo at first hand. "It really sounds like a bird", says Declercq.

Sound structure

But did the pyramid's architects know exactly what they were doing? Declercq's calculations show that, although there is evidence that they engineered the pyramid to produce surprising sounds, they probably couldn't have predicted exactly what they would resemble.

Lubman was at first convinced that the pyramid-builders did create the bird-chirp effect intentionally. But that's not necessarily so, Declercq and his colleagues argue. Their analysis of the pyramid's acoustics show that the precise sound caused by the echoes depends on the sound that excites them. Drums, for example, might produce a different type of resonance.

The researchers hope that others will make more on-site measurements of El Castillo's acoustics to see what effects other sounds sources induce.

Indeed, Declercq heard one such variation during the 2002 trip. As other visitors tramped up the steps of the 24-metre high pyramid, he noticed a flurry of pulse-like echoes that seemed to sound just like rain falling into a bucket of water.

Declercq wonders whether this, rather than the quetzal call, could have been the aim of El Castillo's acoustic design. "It may not be a coincidence," he says - the rain god played an important part in Mayan culture.

But perhaps such meaningful interpretations are fanciful. Declercq's team has shown that the height and spacing of the pyramid's steps creates like an acoustic filter that emphasizes some sound frequencies while suppressing others. But more detailed calculations of the acoustics shows that the echo is also influenced by other, more complex factors, such as the mix of frequencies of the sound source.

Ultimately, then, it will be virtually impossible to prove that any specific echo effect is intentional. "Either you believe it or you don't," says Declercq. He himself is now sceptical of the quetzal theory - not least because he has now heard similar effects produced by staircases at other religious sites. At Kataragama in Sri Lanka, for example, a handclap by a staircase leading down to the Menik Ganga river produces an echo in response that resembles the quacking of ducks.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancienthistory; chirping; decoded; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; mayans; mystery; pyramid
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1 posted on 12/17/2004 2:43:44 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.


2 posted on 12/17/2004 2:45:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The statue of Memnon in Egypt also moaned for millenia when the sun hit it in the morning. After repairs in the late 19th Century, Memnon sang no more.

Schiller wrote a poem about it, and Schubert set it to music in the 1820's.

3 posted on 12/17/2004 2:46:17 PM PST by Publius
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To: blam
Chichén Itzá

Way cool place. I climbed the big pyramid. Easy going up, however, much more nerve racking during the descent.

4 posted on 12/17/2004 2:47:03 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: blam

One has to wonder how a civilization that created calendars that could predict celestial events with an accuracy that far exceeded anything from Europe but never figured out how to weigh a bag of corn built these things.


5 posted on 12/17/2004 2:48:04 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: blam

I climbed that pyramid! Fascinating equinox too!


6 posted on 12/17/2004 2:49:08 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: blam
>Mystery Of 'Chirping' Pyramid Decoded


No highs and no lows?
That chirping temple of yours
just might be a Bose . . .

7 posted on 12/17/2004 2:49:21 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: blam

It was an accident. The intent was that you clap your hands, and sounds were made that would make illegals return to Mexico.


8 posted on 12/17/2004 2:49:53 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

bump!


9 posted on 12/17/2004 2:51:10 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: blam

Change the battery in that smoke detector bump.


10 posted on 12/17/2004 2:52:09 PM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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To: blam
Declercq's calculations show that, although there is evidence that they engineered the pyramid to produce sounds...

I am so tired of these "experts" that find some accident of construction and assume a technology and a knowledge base in primitive people who are scarcely able to feed their own population and who abandoned entire cities when farming became easier elsewhere.

These people had no mathematics, no trig, no algebra, yet they are acoustical engineering buildings? I'd like to see Declercq do these calculations in the math available to the builders.

11 posted on 12/17/2004 2:52:12 PM PST by konaice
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>>>>I am so tired of these "experts" that find some accident of construction and assume a technology and a knowledge base in primitive people who are scarcely able to feed their own population and who abandoned entire cities when farming became easier elsewhere.

I don't find it that far of a reach to assume the sound may have been intentional when these people purposely designed the pyramids for the equinox to 'bring a good harvest'.

Ever see it? It is IMPRESSIVE!
12 posted on 12/17/2004 2:57:08 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

see my post #4 :-)


13 posted on 12/17/2004 3:01:49 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Calpernia
I don't find it that far of a reach to assume the sound may have been intentional when these people purposely designed the pyramids for the equinox to 'bring a good harvest'.

Ever see it? It is IMPRESSIVE!

Aligning a building to predict the equinox is as complex as pounding a few stakes in the ground at the right time of year.

As for bringing a good harvest, that was assured by tearing the still beating heart out of young girls.

14 posted on 12/17/2004 3:03:40 PM PST by konaice
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To: blam

Thanks for the post. Isn't it funny, that we think we are the most enlightened people on earth, after a whole, maybe, 200 years of modern development. We are still learning, of many things we don't understand, about those that came before us.


15 posted on 12/17/2004 3:06:06 PM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: blam

a handclap by a staircase leading down to the Menik Ganga river produces an echo in response that resembles the quacking of ducks.

AFLAIK ?


16 posted on 12/17/2004 3:07:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

LOL My wife went up a little way with me and then looked back. I have pictures of her waving from the ground that I took from the top.


17 posted on 12/17/2004 3:08:26 PM PST by OSHA (birthday tag line removed in respect for mother and child.)
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To: Calpernia

I climbed it too! Went there when I was in high school in 1972.


18 posted on 12/17/2004 3:18:06 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: konaice
Wait a minute...the Mayans had no math? They had an incredibly accurate calendar and extensive knowledge of astronomy. They were pretty darn smart. They knew many things that we don't today.

However I doubt that the sound of hand-clapping echoes on the stairs was one of their big priorities. But by all means, let's have a team of highly-paid, overeducated scientists go around the world clapping on the stairways of the ancients to see if it sounds like a bird or a duck. Now that's science baby!

19 posted on 12/17/2004 3:23:23 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: OSHA
I have pictures of her waving from the ground that I took from the top.

My hubby has a number of pictures like this from Chichen Itza, Uxmal, Palenque....I also have pictures of him on top of various Mayan pyramids with me on the ground. Once I took a look at those steps, uh nyuh, no way.

20 posted on 12/17/2004 3:23:33 PM PST by Catspaw
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