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I Have Solved The Riddle Of The Sphinx, Says Frenchman
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-14-2004 | Nic Fleming

Posted on 12/13/2004 5:36:33 PM PST by blam

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To: muawiyah

Carbon 14 - bunk. And yes, they do rely on the ice rings. Where have you been?


61 posted on 12/14/2004 11:57:37 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: blam
I Have Solved The Riddle Of The Sphinx, Says Frenchman ....Frenchmen are always wrong?

.........The British Wax Museum would say its really Darwin?

.........Maybe,.....it's 'Job' himself.

62 posted on 12/14/2004 12:05:28 PM PST by maestro
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To: Reaganesque

Perhaps he should just borrow my very own "Theory of the Brontasaurus."


63 posted on 12/14/2004 12:11:38 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: Rockpile
At the time they began expanding the Sphinx (carving out the body below the original mushroom ~ now carved into a head ) the primary constellation used for most references was the very large one we now call ARGUS, which is made up of several modern constellation definitions.

You can project it on the Mediterranean world as a kind of map. It was a handy reference for mariners in those days.

64 posted on 12/14/2004 6:45:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

is that as in "solv-ed" by Inspector Clouseau?
(sorry, I couldn't help myself...)


65 posted on 12/14/2004 6:46:29 PM PST by VOA
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To: SunkenCiv
His burial complex at Abu Roash north of Giza was left unfinished, presumably because of his short reign, and was picked apart for building stone over the centuries.

Yet he still had time to build the Sphinx?? Doubtful.

66 posted on 12/14/2004 8:03:28 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker
Nope, he didn't build the Sphinx. There's a New Kingdom copy of an Old Kingdom record which refers to the repair of the Sphinx by Khufu, father of Djedefre and Khafre. If Rainer Stadelmann is correct and Khufu built the Sphinx, why would it need repair? Did the fake beard fall off again? ;')

Minerva July-Aug 2000 had an article containing abstracts of papers given at the Egyptian conference back in late March/early April:
The Great Sphinx of Giza -- A Creation of Khufu/Cheops (Rainer Stadelmann) -- The so-called Dream Stela of Tuthmosis IV does not mention that the Great Sphinx was created by Khafre (Chephren), but the older stela of Amenhotep II mentions both Khufu and Khafre. It is located within the quarries of Khufu. Since the causeway of Khafre runs slightly to the southeast, rather than straight to the east, and since his valley temple lies beyond the axis of his pyramid complex, also toward the southeast, it is suggested that it was to avoid something important that already stood there -- the Great Sphinx. The features also point to Khufu -- the square face and broad chin, the pleated nemes without a band, the wide open eyes and large ears, and the fact the statue was beardless in the Old Kingdom.
This is interesting in that (unlike Zahi "Zowie" Hawass) Rainer Stadelmann is actually a scholar. My view is that the head (which has been exposed, unlike most of the body which has been buried in sand for most of the last 3000 years at least) should be dated using cosmic ray exposure dating. The head isn't that of Khafre. It is also out of scale with the body (this has been pointed out by many people for many years). The head was probably recarved during the Ethiopian dynasty (given the anatomical affinity with black Africa which has been pointed out at least three times in the past couple of centuries).

67 posted on 12/14/2004 9:25:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam

[ping, with a reprise clipped from one of my replies in another topic]

In "COUNTING THE STONES: How Many Blocks in Khufu's Great Pyramid?" by Anthony Sakovich, KMT A MODERN JOURNAL OF ANCIENT EGYPT, VOLUME 13, Number 3, FALL 2002, a number of approximately 4 million is given for the number of stones in the Khufu pyramid. The largest stones are some of the corbels, the rest vary a great deal in size. The most common size runs about 2 tons.

Contrast this to Zahi Hawass, who claimed a few years ago that 2.3 million (the commonly used figure for the number of stones) was far too HIGH, and that the average weight of the stones was around 1000 pounds, or even less.


68 posted on 01/09/2005 8:10:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: RikaStrom
proved that the largest single stone statue on Earth is the work of a forgotten pharaoh.

See, I told you Yu-Gi-Oh was real.


69 posted on 01/09/2005 8:15:24 AM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: blam

Bush's Fault!

Bump


70 posted on 01/09/2005 8:19:55 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: muawiyah

No way it was a mushroom. I'm no Coptic studies guy, but I don't buy this for a minute. Are you suggesting that all the headresses of this shape are modeled after A. muscaria?


71 posted on 01/09/2005 9:32:54 AM PST by dinodino
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To: CriticalJ

I think the original riddle was . . What does a frenchman do standing on three legs, standing on 2 legs, or sitting down? The answer Surrender, of course!


72 posted on 01/09/2005 9:39:40 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: SunkenCiv
I always thought the Sphinx was modeled after the Pharaoh's favorite dog...


73 posted on 01/09/2005 9:42:26 AM PST by bwteim
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To: blam

None of these pharoahs built it anymore than Donald TRump built the Trump Towers.

They may have caused it to be built, but it was the Egyptian architects and slaves who built it.


74 posted on 01/09/2005 9:44:10 AM PST by Beckwith (John, you said I was going to be the First Lady. As of now, you're on the couch.)
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To: muawiyah

Is that a real mushroom? And if so is that a "magic mushroom"?


75 posted on 01/09/2005 9:46:05 AM PST by winodog (I am gonna stop calling them liberals. They are humanists. Liberal is actually a good word)
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To: blam
I'm with you. It is unfortunate that some Egyptologists are so dogmatic. I also have started to be swayed by the argument that the pyramids are "cement" and not stone.
76 posted on 01/09/2005 9:50:24 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: bwteim
Hey, that's plausible. ;')
Anubis

77 posted on 01/09/2005 1:34:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Good choice, IMHO. I read Davidovits' book a while back, bought it from William Corliss' catalog, and found it quite compelling. One of the arguments generally raised against it is that the stone from the pyramid(s) matches such-and-such a quarry. Yet there's nothing concrete (sorry) on which to base that conclusion. :')

The Pyramids: An Enigma Solved The Pyramids:
An Enigma Solved

by Joseph Davidovits
Margaret Morris

other edition

used the French language edition for the cover here. :')
78 posted on 01/09/2005 1:52:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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search for "Campbell's Tomb"
Google
see the in reply to link for another link to another FR topic, or not...
Campbells Tomb
The shaft leading to the so called 'Campbell's Tomb'. Named after a 19th century traveller. It was originally a 4th Dynasty tomb. It is situated close to the Sphinx.

79 posted on 01/09/2005 2:04:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: bwteim

from one of the more solid edges of the fringe...

On the Sphinx
Alan F. Alford
http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/Indexed_Quotations/Sphinx/sphinx.html


80 posted on 01/09/2005 2:08:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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