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Baby Dies in Texas After Mother Reports Cutting off Arms
TBO ^ | Nov 22, 2004

Posted on 11/22/2004 2:03:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

An infant died Monday after her mother called 911 to report that she had cut off the baby's arms, police said.

When authorities arrived, they found the baby with her arms severed and the mother waiting calmly with blood on her clothing, police said. The baby died at a hospital.

The 35-year-old mother, whose name was not released, was being questioned by police.

Authorities said other family members, including two school-age children, lived together in the Plano apartment.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: death; murder
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To: wontbackdown

I agree with you totally.

It was an act we are all horrified by, but if we look at this merely in terms of good and evil, then we assume we cannot prevent it. I believe things like this can be prevented and we must strive to do so. I don't have the answers, but I want the questions asked. We cannot save this poor child, but maybe we can learn and prevent others from becoming victims of the same horror.


201 posted on 11/22/2004 10:16:13 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

This situation brings to mind a proposal that Bill O'Reilly was making to raise the income levels of Americans. O'Reilly was theorizing that if the US government would pay people to get married that this would raise their income greatly. O'Reilly based this on statistics that showed higher income levels for married couples.

Bill's theory: Married couples have higher income so paying people to get married will raise the income of single parent households.

This shows what a moron O'Reilly is. It does not account for the fact that these people may not be married because they are not mentally stable enough to maintain a relationship and may not be mentally stable enough to raise children. This proposal would coerce unsuitable partners to get married simply for the financial incentive, possibly having children who are born into or dragged into abusive situations and turning these children into another generation of unstable adults.


202 posted on 11/22/2004 10:19:46 PM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity.)
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To: Melas

Back in the late 90s (97-99) there were a string of highschoolers that OD'd on heroin. 11 in 97 alone. As far as I know of the situation, it is still going strong.

A bit coincidental, don't you think, that the drug of choice for a very affluent suburb is one of the worlds most expensive. Over 500 bucks for a gram of heroin. Makes sense to me.

I always did hate PESH. Buncha rich, spoiled, drug addicts.


203 posted on 11/22/2004 10:37:03 PM PST by Not Fooled
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To: kuma; All
I'm not certain you can compare this to the terrorists. They aren't crazy or suffering a mental syndrome, they are pure evil. Read my earlier post 169 which is an interview with Marie Osmond about what she learned from this. She had money and help and yet at one point she found herself in the closet crying and then got in her car and started driving... lucky enough to have some one there to care for her children...

If you remember in the story of this woman at one point she was running down the street with her five-year-old following her crying that the baby was home alone. The difference between this woman and Marie Osmond was Marie Osmond had a husband who helped her seek help and they had help with their children so she could concentrate of her path to recovery... along the way she learned about hormones. Hormones are so powerful that I don't know where someone can even begin to explain them unless you've seen someone with hormones out of control.

Does that excuse what happened to this baby? Absolutely not. But before you choose to hang this woman from the neck, you have to start to understand the body and how it can go haywire.

I don't excuse Andrea Yates, either, and she will never be normal BECAUSE if what she did. If you remember she had an HMO and they would no longer pay for her to have inpatient treatment. Perhaps if they would have listened to her husband (and even Andrea herself) she wouldn't have been able to drown her babies.

We don't know the story, yet, of what kind of medical treatment this woman received over the past 10 months.

If she went to a shrink, I'm afraid she was doomed. An Endocrinologist would have served her much better... Andrea, too.

Why an Endocrinologist?

The endocrine system is a complex system of glands. Glands are organs that make hormones. These are substances that help to control activities in your body. Hormones control reproduction, metabolism (food burning and waste elimination), and growth and development.

Hormones also control the way you respond to your surroundings, and they help to provide the proper amount of energy and nutrition your body needs to function.

The endocrine glands include the thyroid, parathyroid, pancreas, ovaries, testes, adrenal, pituitary and hypothalamus.

204 posted on 11/22/2004 10:38:19 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: wontbackdown
I know what you mean. Years ago when I lived in California we had a neighbor who had six children. Her husband was almost never home, and honestly seemed pretty overbearing. She was so busy with her kids that no one really saw much of her. One night we heard these horrible screams as the four oldest kids came running across the street to my next-door neighbor.

Their mother had shot the baby in it's crib, the toddler and herself. She had taken them all to McDonalds that day as a treat, stopped at a hardware store to buy a huge sheet of plastic and then sat the oldest kids down to watch TV before going into the bedroom to carry out the deadly deed.

205 posted on 11/22/2004 10:43:05 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Steve Van Doorn

How so?

Here little one...lay on this board and hold it still so I can cut it...ooops...why'd you get your arm in the way...now be still while I finish cutting the board!! Oh damn...I said lay still...now see what you did...you made me cut off your other arm too!!


206 posted on 11/22/2004 10:44:19 PM PST by trussell (Unemployed intellectual...will act like a pompous ass for food!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
The woman kept all of her appointments and at one time, was prescribed with a psychotropic drug to treat the depression. CPS caseworkers continued to visit the family through the spring and summer.

Maybe the drug was necessary because she was nuts, but it seems that violent acts,including the Columbine Massacre and most (if not all) school shootings have involved pharmacotherapy at some point. I know this is coincidental, but is there some possibility of causality here?

207 posted on 11/22/2004 10:45:21 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

What are the chances of something like a post psychotropic mediaction psychosis? (I don't even know if that is a medical term, or if it ever will be, but it reads right.)


208 posted on 11/22/2004 11:30:15 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
It reached the point that I was watching for the "the kid was on medication" reports.

You and me both. And oddly, sooner or later, the reports came out, too.

209 posted on 11/22/2004 11:35:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Time to put the shrinks back in their skinner box and let them analyse each other, imo...


210 posted on 11/22/2004 11:38:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Trippin
How in God's name can someone do something like this? She must be insane.

It's a mental illness called "crack cocaine addiction."

211 posted on 11/22/2004 11:51:11 PM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: Alouette

Was that in the article?


212 posted on 11/23/2004 12:22:10 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SerpentDove

Do you think there is such a thing as good and evil?

Yes.


213 posted on 11/23/2004 12:23:50 AM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; All
After all my rambling this evening about shrinks vs seeing an endocrinologist for PPD up pops another article that is different yet the same as far as explaining how these psychotropic drugs can do more harm than good...

Please, everyone, read this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285024/posts

214 posted on 11/23/2004 12:46:45 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pillut48
Yikes! :^O

215 posted on 11/23/2004 2:35:05 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Calpernia
Mornin'! :^D

Waves back .....


216 posted on 11/23/2004 6:07:12 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Who was the last one Barbara(?) Yates... ?


217 posted on 11/23/2004 6:15:45 AM PST by traumer
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To: Dog Gone
"We do have more than our share of bizarre murders in this state."

Perhaps I was a bit harsh yesterday, and you have a more insightful knowledge of this subject than I gave you credit for.

What is the fair share of bizarre murders for Texas?

218 posted on 11/23/2004 6:18:54 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Cornpone

"Its the water"

No kidding. It's a bizarre place, Plano.


219 posted on 11/23/2004 6:20:37 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Melas

'Why would it be heroin? Plano is one of the most affluent sections of the metroplex'

DING DING DING!!


220 posted on 11/23/2004 6:24:28 AM PST by bonfire
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