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Free Martha !...or not! ***Live Thread*** on Martha's fate (Five Months)
News channels ^ | July 16, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 7:23:49 AM PDT by TomGuy

Free Martha!!!!!....or Not!

Court decision any moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marthastewart
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To: cspackler; Solson; q_an_a; Frapster; Dr. Eckleburg
Her ego made her think that she could get away with it, so she lied...

Think about this for a moment, this is a very intelligent woman, versed in the ways of Wall Street, she clearly would have understood the gravity of being caught lying to federal officials. Indeed, any normal person would quake in her boots when confronted with a federal badge.

No Sir, her ego, big as I am sure it is, could not have been the reason for her boldness. Such gall could only be the result of repeated yet unpunished deceitful behavior. Let's not kid ourselves. A crook was punished today and her statement outside the courthouse will make the judge regret she went lenient in her sentence.

241 posted on 07/17/2004 12:07:43 AM PDT by mwilli20 (Help communism make a comeback - Vote Kerry!)
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To: Solson
Heck, in the case of a sitting President obstructing justice and lying to investigators, we found a million ways to let them walk free. In fact, in the large majority of perjury cases, no penalty is offered.

You can't complain about a prosecution whose very existence refutes your argument that we "let them walk free." We should complain when they let crooks get away not when they prosecute them.

242 posted on 07/17/2004 12:15:25 AM PDT by mwilli20 (Help communism make a comeback - Vote Kerry!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
How much did/does she get from the husband...

Martha's business was so successful her husband quit his job to work for the company. When they divorced, he got from her.

Have you seen daytime TV lately, especially the home shows? Practically to a one, they are hosted by the lavender mafia, a term used most recently by Michael Ovitz who suffered much of the same heat Martha's getting.

She's being destroyed gleefully.

243 posted on 07/17/2004 12:32:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: kenth

This URL should clear things up:

http://www.seclaw.com/docs/marthastewartindictmentseccivil0603


244 posted on 07/17/2004 5:21:09 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino •)
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To: mwilli20; cspackler; Solson; q_an_a; Frapster; Dr. Eckleburg

It may or may not have been her ego - that's beside the point. The fact of the matter is she did something she shouldn't have so getting caught was not out of the question. However, I think she got more attention than she deserved and should have gotten no jail time, probation is warranted and I guess, now that I think about it a little more, a much heavier fine. Having this happen around the time of Enron was horrible timing lol.


245 posted on 07/17/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by Frapster (Not with the wisdom of man's words but through the demonstration of power.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

notta very grateful person.

let's see, you're on the way to mexico in your private jet, you stop for fuel in texas, and your investment advisor tells you that sam wax is selling his phony stocks and so should you.

please note mr and mrs investor didn't get the same inside info.

and you lie to investigators, but you still don't get it.

meanwhile, media feminists portray you as a victim.


246 posted on 07/17/2004 8:09:10 AM PDT by no_problema
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; Frapster; RedBloodedAmerican; All
That link is a great assessment.

The untold question remains why did Waksal sell his stock a day after learning of the FDAs negative report? What CEO does something this overt? Any idiot would know he'd leave himself open for massive shareholder fury and SEC questioning.

Of course the FDA's turn-around on the drug is the real question nobody's asking.

All adding up to another good reason to stay out of the stock market.

247 posted on 07/17/2004 11:39:09 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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248 posted on 07/17/2004 12:26:52 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: mwilli20
that is a big stretch- lying to an agent- claiming to be innocent is not a crime. the charge against her was about illegal trading, but her conviction is for lying. they did not prove she did anything illegal ---except lie to the agents. But the paperwork that was used to prove the lie was a fake- this makes you wonder did she lie?

she did not get charged or convicted for selling the stock.

She did not get convicted of perjury. This is not a Klinton thing where power was used on underlings in the abuse of power. if she can be convicted of lying so can you or I.

249 posted on 07/17/2004 1:28:20 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: jimbo123; martin_fierro

Man hands.


250 posted on 07/17/2004 3:07:05 PM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)
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To: nicmarlo
Boy did he castrate this particular judge.

Did you mean castigate, i.e. chastize?

251 posted on 07/17/2004 4:30:12 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=CT&last=Stewart&first=Martha

Figures she'd be a big-time Dem contributor.


252 posted on 07/17/2004 5:45:14 PM PDT by no.gov
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To: RochesterFan
Did you mean castigate, i.e. chastize?

lol...yes (but he did castrate him too! : )

253 posted on 07/17/2004 6:03:18 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

LOL. Ouch. Note to self: keep sharp instruments away from Michael...


254 posted on 07/17/2004 6:24:12 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: mwilli20

Actually, I think that her staements outside of the courtroom only give more credence to my ego statement. The ego thing wasn't what I was really getiing at, though, the fact is that she lied to the Feds. Not a good idea no matter who you are.


255 posted on 07/17/2004 7:56:38 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I feel for Martha. Amerika. It loves to throw you up and it loves more, to tear you down. As an aside and appropos AG etc, I justlove the horns on American Idol


256 posted on 07/17/2004 10:20:34 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (F scott fitzgerald est le premier romancier de l'Amérique, sans exception)
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To: TomGuy
Red flag
5 months in prison


How much did Hitlery got for inside cattle trading ($1,000 vs. $100.000+)???
257 posted on 07/17/2004 10:38:32 PM PDT by danamco
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258 posted on 07/18/2004 1:16:50 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Most people talk a lot, few are up for the moment. Welcome to Freerepublic.com)
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To: danamco
Martha was just stupid enough to get caught. i mean it was pretty blatant . I'm having a hard time bestowing victim hood on the idiotic.
259 posted on 07/19/2004 12:36:12 AM PDT by newfarm4000n (Taxes for social security is theft)
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To: finnman69

Scott peterson is going to run that gulty little bastard


260 posted on 07/19/2004 1:35:01 PM PDT by al baby
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