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Free Martha !...or not! ***Live Thread*** on Martha's fate (Five Months)
News channels ^ | July 16, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 7:23:49 AM PDT by TomGuy

Free Martha!!!!!....or Not!

Court decision any moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marthastewart
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To: TomGuy
SING TO THE BIG CLINTON SUPPORTER HERE
141 posted on 07/16/2004 8:03:51 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: myrabach
I'm in the middle of the road on this story. Stewart commited a crime--tried to cover it up and could have gotten a stiffer sentence. She is not above the law. Now the other side: "Domestic Diva"---the keyword here is "domestic"--something that surely ruffles the feathers of the N.O.W. crowd: can't have rich, successful, shrewd, business women promoting a revival in finding simple joys and rewards in homemaking.
142 posted on 07/16/2004 8:04:00 AM PDT by two23
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To: Solson

A mid-management person would not have been on the board of the New York Stock Exchange. She thought, like all of the Clintonistas think, that she was above the law.


143 posted on 07/16/2004 8:06:41 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: TomGuy
HEY, how's BARRETTA doin?!
144 posted on 07/16/2004 8:07:54 AM PDT by 1234 (Border control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: TomGuy

Very unusual for the judge to depart downward from the maximum Sentencing Guidelines "points" for a convicted defendent who fought through trial and has no remorse or "acceptance of repsonsibility".

She caught a break.


145 posted on 07/16/2004 8:12:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (Bill Cosby for Black Culture Czar!)
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To: doug from upland
The Clintons were above the law. Why wouldn't others think they too can be above the law?

Like I continue to say - the consistent enforcement and prosecution of the law, despite a persons standing in society, wealth or position is paramount to the actual force of the law itself.

Do you honestly think we are consistent in our enforcement and prosecution of perjury laws, insider trading laws, or obstruction laws?

146 posted on 07/16/2004 8:13:17 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: freedumb2003

Stock up 38%


147 posted on 07/16/2004 8:15:56 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: Solson

So - for example "gay pride" parades where naked men can run around New York / Seattle; or where Black Panthers get to bring their AR-15s to their meetings and brandish them about... (just a couple of examples and not trying to throw red herrings) - since police tend to look the other way . . . local laws concerning public decency and/or bearing your weapons should be what (dropped or 100% consistently enforced)? I'm thinking Martha got caught, she got tried, she got convicted. She's guilty. Should insider trading be legal? Maybe that's the question.


148 posted on 07/16/2004 8:17:37 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: q_an_a
amazing how many conservatives hate Martha for her politics and want the legal system to punish her for listening to her broker.

I agree, I think that she was made a scapegoat by the SEC. At that time the SEC couldn't get Ken Lay at Enron, they couldn't get Bernie Ebbers at Worldcom, so they go after Martha. I do question if Martha would have given money to the correct politicians if this would have happened.

149 posted on 07/16/2004 8:19:10 AM PDT by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: krunkygirl


Martha Stewart at a special Screening of Michael Moore's New Film Fahrenheit 9/11, held at the Ziegfeld Theater. -
150 posted on 07/16/2004 8:19:50 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: AD from SpringBay

It should be enforced as close to 100% as humanly possible. Insider trading is pretty damn tough to enforce consistently. Thus, either build up the resources necessary to enforce it consistently or change the law. In this case, I happen to think Stewart was targeted because of her name, her position, and her wealth. That's the part I have a problem with.


151 posted on 07/16/2004 8:21:32 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I bet she wears a thong.

It had better be a barbed wire one for where she's going.


152 posted on 07/16/2004 8:22:31 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: finnman69
HA!..LOL!..12 minutes, I was wondering when the first would show up. :))
153 posted on 07/16/2004 8:23:25 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: doug from upland
Doug, just look at the comments here.

Securities fraud is a big issue. Folks may invest their whole life savings into stocks by trust. I heard there are 700 other investigations taking place that we won't hear about. Most stem from 5,6,7 years ago when Clinton was the code of the day.

Why do Republicans always have to clean up RAT messes?

154 posted on 07/16/2004 8:24:17 AM PDT by BobS
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To: cripplecreek

Whoa! Bad visual!


155 posted on 07/16/2004 8:26:59 AM PDT by randog
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To: Solson

Excellent! You're so right. Couldn't have said it better myself.


156 posted on 07/16/2004 8:27:23 AM PDT by Soldiersmon
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To: jimbo123

But isn't the irony here that she is convicted of lying about a crime she isn't convicted of?


157 posted on 07/16/2004 8:28:04 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: finnman69
and on another trial note...Scott Peterson is going to walk.

Startin' to look that way, isn't it? Unless there's a Perry Mason moment, of course.

158 posted on 07/16/2004 8:28:13 AM PDT by randog
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To: Solson
Do you honestly think we are consistent in our enforcement and prosecution of perjury laws, insider trading laws, or obstruction laws?

That doesn't mean the guilty who are sentenced properly (or in this case, improperly - too lightly) should go free.

159 posted on 07/16/2004 8:28:29 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: BobS

We always have to clean up their messes. Unfortunately, the RATS in my state of California have created such a mess that I don't think it can be fixed.


160 posted on 07/16/2004 8:29:20 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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