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To: little jeremiah
they say that sometimes addicts have to "hit bottom" before they make the changes needed to climb out.

I've always thought that way too, until it was pointed out that the (myth) of "hitting bottom" first, can be death, and in many cases, we have seen that it has proven to be true.

574 posted on 12/12/2003 8:55:27 PM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: DreamWeaver
I am hoping that the collective "hitting bottom" that may have to happen isn't fatal. I have my reasons why I think that whatever happens in terms of (take your pick) war, terrorist whackos, economic FUBARism, social chaos, etc - will ultimately result in a healthier situation. For those that are left.

And it is not because I think Jesus is coming. I'm not saying he isn't, but that isn't my "belief system".

Speaking in terms of yoga philosophy or Buddhism, attachments to the world lead to suffering. I consider that society as a whole has too many attachments (addictions?) to things that are not only unnecessary but downright vicious or harmful. On many different levels, personal and social.

Some examples of unnecessary or harmful attachments could be the porn industry, Hollywood phantasmagoria, hateful excessive taxation, a lot of "ideas" about how the government should be run or what its responsibilities are, the concept that personal gratification trumps personal responsibility, etc etc.
575 posted on 12/12/2003 9:47:24 PM PST by little jeremiah
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