This thread will serve as a place for posting all new information and links regarding Terri's case, information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information and prayers. I will update the thread daily during the week and on Friday nights for the weekends for as long as we need to.
Thanks to "iowamomforfreedom" for helping collect all the threads. There are doubtless some missing. Please feel free to add. Future threads will have a link back to this one.
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Apologies for mistakes, duplicates or posts out of sequence. I did the thread more hurriedly than I would have liked. I have to leave in just a couple of hours, so if there are corrections to be made, just post correction and refer to thread title.
I hope this works out well. Please ping your lists.
2 posted on
10/28/2003 10:03:40 PM PST by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sweetliberty; .38sw; 2nd amendment mama; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; ...
One last bump before I retire for the evening.
Kudoes to you and all who helped compile this.
Good night.
To: sweetliberty
AWESOME, SL!! WOW! Lookie at all those links too! Thanks!
5 posted on
10/28/2003 10:10:23 PM PST by
Humidston
(Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Great job!
To: sweetliberty; GWB and GOP Man
Good job! Free Republic cares.
8 posted on
10/28/2003 10:20:00 PM PST by
floriduh voter
(Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
To: sweetliberty
WOW! Great job! Nicely done...many thanks!
9 posted on
10/28/2003 10:20:02 PM PST by
Republic
To: sweetliberty
God Bless you for your pwork, Sweetliberty, I know God led you to do this...............
10 posted on
10/28/2003 10:32:13 PM PST by
oreolady
(Have you reviewed your living will lately?)
To: sweetliberty
BUMPITY!
To: sweetliberty
You are AWESOME for making this thread! I hope everyone sticks to it so we can consilidate all the info in one spot!
12 posted on
10/28/2003 10:36:13 PM PST by
honeygrl
(All of the above is JUST MY OPINION)
To: sweetliberty
For those who haven't seen it -- especially those in the medical profession -- let's introduce Terri's bone scan about a year after she "collapsed." There was a routing slip that went with this marked "closed head injury." I apologize for any misspellings -- sometimes it was hard to read, and sometimes, it was just that I missed the last 11 years of med school :-)
I believe this document was not released until about ten years after the scan. Other medical records for Terri still remain sealed at Michael Schiavo's orders. Patricia Anderson, Terri's lawyer (i.e., the Schindlers' lawyer) relates that as soon as she saw this document, she sent it to three physicians for evaluation. All three replied that it suggested trauma, meaning Terri may have been beaten. Other explanations are possible, but exceedingly unlikely for a healthy, 26-year-old woman. Anderson then took the matter to Judge Greer to ask for time to do discovery in the matter. He denied, saying it was all very interesting, but had nothing to do with Terri's present condition (!). (Yoohoo, Judge Greer -- there is only one suspect in the possible beating of Theresa Schiavo: the very person you entrusted as her legal guardian.)
As always, if I have stated any facts wrong, please correct me.
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831223741016 03/05
Schiavo, Theresa
Carnahan, James 27 Y O
OP diag
Nuclear Imaging
3-5- 91
BONE SCAN:
Indication: Evaluate for trauma
Procedure and findings. Multiple gamma camera images of the axial and proximal appendicular skeleton in the anterior and posterior projections were obtained, following 21.1 millicuries of Technetium 99m HDP.
There are an extensive number of focal abnormal areas of nuclide accumulation of intense type. These include multiple bilateral ribs, the costovertebral aspects of several of the thoracic vertebral bodies, the L1 vertebral body, both sacroiliac joints, the distal right femoral diaphysis, both knees, and both ankles, right greater than the left. Correlative radiographs are obtained of the lumbar spine and of the right femur which reveal compression fracture, minor, superior end plate of L1 and shaggy irregular periosteal ossification along the distal femoral diaphysis and metaphysis primarily ventrally.
The patient has a history of trauma, most likely the femoral periosteal reaction reflects a response to a subperiosteal hemorrhage and the activity in L1 correlates perfectly with the compression fracture which is presumably traumatic. The presumption is that the other multiple areas of abnormal activity also relate to previous trauma. Additional possibility would be neoplastic bone disease, widespread disseminated infectious bone disease or multiple bone infarcts from abnormal hemoglobin.
CONCLUSION
Multiple areas of abnormal scintigraphic accumulation some of which are radiograph for differential as discussed above.
16 posted on
10/28/2003 10:50:52 PM PST by
T'wit
To: sweetliberty
Thank You
21 posted on
10/29/2003 12:15:00 AM PST by
Orlando
(Poll being conducted in Central Florida at www.540wfla.com... vote YES!)
To: sweetliberty; fml; JustPiper; yonif; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; Dustbunny; The Red Zone; ...
From FoxNews Channel - "On the Record with Greta" -Schiavo segment- Tuesday, 28 oct 2003
Greta: Last night, Michael Schiavo broke his silence to make his case for ending his wife's life, and made some shocking accusations against Terri's family. He said about Terri's father:
"No, because he's always wanted the money. He Always wanted the money out of this. He even testified in the first trial that he was angry that he didn't get any money."
So here to respond, is Terri's brother Bobby... He's joined by the Schindler's attorney, Pat Anderson.
Greta: Bobby, umm, your brother-in-law says its about money. Basically your father wants the money, thats why he does not want the feeding tube removed from your sister. What's your response?
Bobby: Well, its umm, totally false Greta. Interestingly enough, back in 1992, Michael was sueing a doctor, at a malpractice trial, and he was asking for up to 20 million dollars to take care of Terri for the rest of his life... for the rest of her life.
Bobby: And shortly after the malpractice money came in, in January 1993... It was umm, just six months later when Michael attempted to withhold antibiotics, Terri would have died from an infection, she had from a urinary tract infection... She would have died, and Michael would have inherited close to a Million dollars at that time.
Bobby: So this notion, or you know, this accusation that my parents were in it for the money, is just absolutely false, and ahhh, just wrong.
Anderson: Greta, the parents...
Greta: Pat, go ahead.
Anderson: The parents want to keep Terri alive. They want to keep Terry alive, its obvious. They're not fighting to kill her, they're fighting to keep her alive and get her better. It has nothing to do with money for THEM.
Greta: So what's with this money at... so Pat... Pat, so what's with.... I mean, is there... I don't even know where the money IS... umm I know that there was a malpractice lawsuit, a successful one, but a lot of money has gone into paying for this poor woman's medical care. Is there ANY money to be-
Anderson: Oh, no, no no no.
Greta: fighting over?
Anderson: No, the money has NOT gone into that purpose, the money has gone into lawyer's pockets. George Felos has received 357 THOUSAND dollars of Terri's money. Debbie Bushnell has received about another 90 thousand. All told, WAY more than HALF of the money that that jury awarded for Terri's care has been spent on attorney's fees and costs.
Greta: But is there any LEFT to fight about? How about that? Thats a good [unintelligible] to my next question...
Anderson: No, No... No.
Greta: Ok, allright... Bobby, what was the... how do you describe your sister's marriage up until the day that she went to the hospital? What was her marriage like with her husband?
Bobby: Well it was deteriorating Greta. I mean, we've had ahh, Terri and I had conversations ahh, prior to her collapsing that evening, where she was ahh, coming to me seeking a DIVORCE from Michael.
Bobby: And at the time, I was only in my early twenties, and ah, other than just listening to her, I really didn't offer... you know, have much to offer, as far as how to go about seeking a divorce. Ahh, she was extremely unhappy.
Greta: Pat, what Michael said last night is that Terri was bulemic, and that when you constantly throw up, that you lose a lot of potassium, and the suggestion is that what put her into cardiac arrest was VERY LOW potassium. True or False? on ahh whether or not she was bulemic, and this may have created a potassium deficiency?
Anderson: Well, the doctors I've consulted, and maybe Dr. Baden can throw some light on this, is that her posassium was ahh, below normal, but her BLOOD GLUCOSE was quite elevated. So there is some speculation in the doctors that I've consulted, that the paramedics were running a glucose solution, ahh on her before she got to the hospital which ALTERED her blood chemistry... to that extent. The bulemia is... is just a theory.
Greta: Alright, well we'll still keep digging into that... Bobby, do you ever talk to your brother-in-law? Do you ever have any conversations with him in the last six months or so?
Bobby: No, not in the last six months. The last time I had contact with Michael was just prior to the original trial in January of 2000. And I asked him if he would like to talk about the upcoming trial, and umm, at the time, he told me that any conversations that WE would have would be through his attorney.
Greta: And your parents, have they, I mean has there ever been any sort of effort for you all to just sit in the room, I mean, obviously has become a very public and disturbing problem. ahh, any chance that even, all of you could sit down, and somehow work this out in Terri's best interest?... Bobby?
Bobby: Well I would LOVE... That would be WONDERFUL if we could do something to work this out... and we can get guardianship back of Terri, cause all we want to do is bring her back home and take care of her.
Bobby: We just want Michael to take care of HIS family, and we want to take care of Terri.
Anderson: You know, he has, ahh an infant daughter, and he needs to concentrate on it.
Greta: Allright, Pat, Bobby, thank you both very much.
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Recent interviews/excerpts:
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"
"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> Florida AG Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"
"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"
"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"
"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":
To: sweetliberty
Anyone want to go fishing? At
http://pubtitlet.co.pinellas.fl.us/index.html there is a link to 'available records' which requires $60 registration to view. Available records include:
BUILDING PERMITS
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY OWNER NAME
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY CONTRACTOR NAME
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY COMPANY NAME
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY CONSTRUCTION SITE ADDRESS
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY PERMIT NUMBER
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY CPR NUMBER
BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTION RECORDS
CHILD SUPPORT INQUIRY
CHILD SUPPORT INQUIRY NAME ENTRY
CHILD SUPPORT RECORD
CIVIL/SMALL CLAIMS SYSTEM
ATTORNEY CASE LOAD
CASE RELATED PERSONS
DOING BUSINESS AS
FORECLOSURE SALES
HISTORY NAME INQUIRY
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PLAINTIFF/DEFENDANT ADDRESS
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CASE CHARGE/DISPOSITION/SENTENCING HISTORY
CASE PROGRESS DOCKET DISPLAY
CASE RELATED PERSONS
COURT APPEARANCE VIEWING
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INQ/FIND PERSON SPN BY NAME
INQ/FIND ATTORNEY NAME
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OFFENDER BASED TRACKING SYSTEM (OBTS)
PERSON INFORMATION
PERSONS NUMERIC INQUIRY
PERSONS RELATED CASES
SENTENCING GUIDELINES
MARRIAGE LICENSE INQUIRY
MARRIAGE NAME RECORDS
MARRIAGE RECORD
OFFICIAL RECORDS
INQUIRIES ON PLAT INFORMATION
INQUIRIES ON RESTRICTIONS BY SECTION NUMBER
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MICROFILM INDEX FOR YEARS 1957-1990
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TAX DEED SALE DATES
TAX DEED SALE PROPERTIES
TAX DEED FINAL DISPOSITION
PARKING TICKETS
INDIVIDUAL PARKING TICKET INQUIRY
PARKING TICKET INQUIRY BY NAME/TAG NUMBER
PARKING TICKET ACTIVITY
TICKET PAYMENT RECORDS
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ALSO KNOWN AS INQUIRY
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PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RECORD DETAIL - PRIOR YEAR
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REAL ESTATE PARCEL TAX RECORD DETAIL - CURRENT YEAR
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REAL ESTATE DELINQUENT TAX RECORDS
To: sweetliberty
Another case in which Greer was involved (one of the judges) had to do with a woman who died in the care of Scientologists. Page here
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html#ad_litem gives an overview of the case and an interesting comment about the Pinellas County Medical Examiner:
"Prosecutors say they still believe McPherson died as the result of neglect at the hands of fellow church members. But the credibility of Pasco-Pinellas Medical Examiner Joan Wood is so poor following her decision to change McPherson's autopsy report that charges of abusing a disabled person and practicing medicine without a license cannot be sustained, State Attorney Bernie McCabe said Monday."
To: sweetliberty
29 posted on
10/29/2003 4:16:40 AM PST by
clouda
To: sweetliberty
This is wonderful. "Thank you" to you and iowamomforfreedom for putting it together.
30 posted on
10/29/2003 4:38:11 AM PST by
syriacus
(Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
To: sweetliberty; NYer; Ragtime Cowgirl; kimmie7; Theodore R.; RedRidingHood; Land of the Irish; ...
Kudos for initiating a needed FReeper resource. There are threads that were overlooked, and I will do what I can to assist you in this regard. As part of the index I'm creating, I'll also credit those FReepers who brought these articles to the attention of FreeRepublic membership and FR lurkers.
In the beginning, there were only a handful of FReepers participating on the Terri threads early on. However, what we lacked in numbers we made up for in dedication and prayerful persistence - with hours of daily research and posting to bring this shameful issue to the attention of FreeRepublic.com and beyond.
I believe this issue has 'legs of its own', and Terri will not be made to suffer the latest barbarism of the Florida death camp 'system' supported without question by Gov. Bush, the Florida courts, the Florida legislature, and the Roman Catholic Church.
Evil shrinks in the light of day.
The light of the Lord has exposed the madness condoned within the medical and legal profession against the vulnerable and helpless who can and are easily manipulated into naming their predators as the beneficiaries of all their worldly goods.
While society demands an end to 'organized crime', it is without doubt quite blind to those who use the authority of government to get away with what a reasonable man would call extortion and murder. The perfect crime is that which is done under the color of law.
Just as a rose by any other name is still a rose, so to a murder by court decree which intentionally and without cause terminates the life of a good and decent human is still a murder.
Hitler had his courts. Florida has its courts. In this instance they are a mirror of purpose and result.
32 posted on
10/29/2003 4:47:54 AM PST by
Robert Drobot
(God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
To: sweetliberty
I am listening to MS brother Steve, on the Micheal Mshconish (sp) program, and he reports that the money (at least some) being paid to MS attorney, is from Terri's settlement money.The reasoning being that he was once Terri's lawyer. What a sick and ironic twist of fate.
34 posted on
10/29/2003 5:21:50 AM PST by
fml
To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
Awesome job! Thank you both very much.
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