Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003

To: sweetliberty

21 posted on 10/29/2003 12:15:00 AM PST by Orlando (Poll being conducted in Central Florida at www.540wfla.com... vote YES!)

To: sweetliberty; fml; JustPiper; yonif; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; Dustbunny; The Red Zone; ...

From FoxNews Channel - "On the Record with Greta" -Schiavo segment- Tuesday, 28 oct 2003

Greta: Last night, Michael Schiavo broke his silence to make his case for ending his wife's life, and made some shocking accusations against Terri's family. He said about Terri's father:

"No, because he's always wanted the money. He Always wanted the money out of this. He even testified in the first trial that he was angry that he didn't get any money."

So here to respond, is Terri's brother Bobby... He's joined by the Schindler's attorney, Pat Anderson.

Greta: Bobby, umm, your brother-in-law says its about money. Basically your father wants the money, thats why he does not want the feeding tube removed from your sister. What's your response?

Bobby: Well, its umm, totally false Greta. Interestingly enough, back in 1992, Michael was sueing a doctor, at a malpractice trial, and he was asking for up to 20 million dollars to take care of Terri for the rest of his life... for the rest of her life.

Bobby: And shortly after the malpractice money came in, in January 1993... It was umm, just six months later when Michael attempted to withhold antibiotics, Terri would have died from an infection, she had from a urinary tract infection... She would have died, and Michael would have inherited close to a Million dollars at that time.

Bobby: So this notion, or you know, this accusation that my parents were in it for the money, is just absolutely false, and ahhh, just wrong.

Anderson: Greta, the parents...

Greta: Pat, go ahead.

Anderson: The parents want to keep Terri alive. They want to keep Terry alive, its obvious. They're not fighting to kill her, they're fighting to keep her alive and get her better. It has nothing to do with money for THEM.

Greta: So what's with this money at... so Pat... Pat, so what's with.... I mean, is there... I don't even know where the money IS... umm I know that there was a malpractice lawsuit, a successful one, but a lot of money has gone into paying for this poor woman's medical care. Is there ANY money to be-

Anderson: Oh, no, no no no.

Greta: fighting over?

Anderson: No, the money has NOT gone into that purpose, the money has gone into lawyer's pockets. George Felos has received 357 THOUSAND dollars of Terri's money. Debbie Bushnell has received about another 90 thousand. All told, WAY more than HALF of the money that that jury awarded for Terri's care has been spent on attorney's fees and costs.

Greta: But is there any LEFT to fight about? How about that? Thats a good [unintelligible] to my next question...

Anderson: No, No... No.

Greta: Ok, allright... Bobby, what was the... how do you describe your sister's marriage up until the day that she went to the hospital? What was her marriage like with her husband?

Bobby: Well it was deteriorating Greta. I mean, we've had ahh, Terri and I had conversations ahh, prior to her collapsing that evening, where she was ahh, coming to me seeking a DIVORCE from Michael.

Bobby: And at the time, I was only in my early twenties, and ah, other than just listening to her, I really didn't offer... you know, have much to offer, as far as how to go about seeking a divorce. Ahh, she was extremely unhappy.

Greta: Pat, what Michael said last night is that Terri was bulemic, and that when you constantly throw up, that you lose a lot of potassium, and the suggestion is that what put her into cardiac arrest was VERY LOW potassium. True or False? on ahh whether or not she was bulemic, and this may have created a potassium deficiency?

Anderson: Well, the doctors I've consulted, and maybe Dr. Baden can throw some light on this, is that her posassium was ahh, below normal, but her BLOOD GLUCOSE was quite elevated. So there is some speculation in the doctors that I've consulted, that the paramedics were running a glucose solution, ahh on her before she got to the hospital which ALTERED her blood chemistry... to that extent. The bulemia is... is just a theory.

Greta: Alright, well we'll still keep digging into that... Bobby, do you ever talk to your brother-in-law? Do you ever have any conversations with him in the last six months or so?

Bobby: No, not in the last six months. The last time I had contact with Michael was just prior to the original trial in January of 2000. And I asked him if he would like to talk about the upcoming trial, and umm, at the time, he told me that any conversations that WE would have would be through his attorney.

Greta: And your parents, have they, I mean has there ever been any sort of effort for you all to just sit in the room, I mean, obviously has become a very public and disturbing problem. ahh, any chance that even, all of you could sit down, and somehow work this out in Terri's best interest?... Bobby?

Bobby: Well I would LOVE... That would be WONDERFUL if we could do something to work this out... and we can get guardianship back of Terri, cause all we want to do is bring her back home and take care of her.

Bobby: We just want Michael to take care of HIS family, and we want to take care of Terri.

Anderson: You know, he has, ahh an infant daughter, and he needs to concentrate on it.

Greta: Allright, Pat, Bobby, thank you both very much.

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Recent interviews/excerpts:
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"

"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"

"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> Florida AG Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"

"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"

"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":

22 posted on 10/29/2003 12:26:18 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

To: sweetliberty

Anyone want to go fishing? At http://pubtitlet.co.pinellas.fl.us/index.html there is a link to 'available records' which requires $60 registration to view. Available records include:
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23 posted on 10/29/2003 1:06:08 AM PST by Graymatter

To: sweetliberty

Another case in which Greer was involved (one of the judges) had to do with a woman who died in the care of Scientologists. Page here

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html#ad_litem

gives an overview of the case and an interesting comment about the Pinellas County Medical Examiner:

"Prosecutors say they still believe McPherson died as the result of neglect at the hands of fellow church members. But the credibility of Pasco-Pinellas Medical Examiner Joan Wood is so poor following her decision to change McPherson's autopsy report that charges of abusing a disabled person and practicing medicine without a license cannot be sustained, State Attorney Bernie McCabe said Monday."

24 posted on 10/29/2003 1:30:25 AM PST by Graymatter

Free search yields three listings in criminal look-up for Michael Schiavo; an auto accident for Jodi Centonze; 5 traffic citations for Michael Schiavo (one for running a stop sign). This Michael Schiavo (who may or may not be Terri's husband) completed a defensive driving course recently, as a result of a charge of "OBED/TRAFFIC/CONTROL/DEVICE" whatever that is.

25 posted on 10/29/2003 2:04:30 AM PST by Graymatter

To: sweetliberty

I doubt that. However it will concentrate them into one place where we might get them banned with judicious use of the abuse button.

26 posted on 10/29/2003 2:11:16 AM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)

It is not clear to this non-subscriber whether the names listed in the criminal look-up are always defendants. For all I know they could be witnesses or other involved parties in cases. You need to register to get more info. In some of the Michael S. listings, his birth date is given, but in others it could as well be anyone named Michael Schiavo, since records are not accessible without registration.
If anyone's registered and can access all records please fm me, I have some specific searches in mind that might not be the obvious ones.

27 posted on 10/29/2003 2:53:43 AM PST by Graymatter

To: floriduh voter

"....It was an act of compassion, supported by the conviction that any life and death decision must fully consider all relevant facts and conditions."

Let me join with you in thanking the boy who would be governor and the 'people sensitive' legislature of the state of Death r Us for waiting until the sixth day of starvation to get off their fat brains and save this defenseless woman.

On second thought, you go ahead on your own, and do all the 'thanking' you want. I'll pass. Some call that kind of 'thanking' kissing the darkside. To each his own, right?

28 posted on 10/29/2003 3:28:40 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)

To: sweetliberty

Thanks for the ping and all your hard work.

Good article here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1010128/posts?page=1,50

29 posted on 10/29/2003 4:16:40 AM PST by clouda

To: sweetliberty

This is wonderful. "Thank you" to you and iowamomforfreedom for putting it together.

30 posted on 10/29/2003 4:38:11 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)

Thanks for the ping, and the transcript, FL_engineer. The links to other interviews will be very useful, too.

31 posted on 10/29/2003 4:46:54 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)

To: sweetliberty; NYer; Ragtime Cowgirl; kimmie7; Theodore R.; RedRidingHood; Land of the Irish; ...

Kudos for initiating a needed FReeper resource. There are threads that were overlooked, and I will do what I can to assist you in this regard. As part of the index I'm creating, I'll also credit those FReepers who brought these articles to the attention of FreeRepublic membership and FR lurkers.

In the beginning, there were only a handful of FReepers participating on the Terri threads early on. However, what we lacked in numbers we made up for in dedication and prayerful persistence - with hours of daily research and posting to bring this shameful issue to the attention of FreeRepublic.com and beyond.

I believe this issue has 'legs of its own', and Terri will not be made to suffer the latest barbarism of the Florida death camp 'system' supported without question by Gov. Bush, the Florida courts, the Florida legislature, and the Roman Catholic Church.

Evil shrinks in the light of day.

The light of the Lord has exposed the madness condoned within the medical and legal profession against the vulnerable and helpless who can and are easily manipulated into naming their predators as the beneficiaries of all their worldly goods.

While society demands an end to 'organized crime', it is without doubt quite blind to those who use the authority of government to get away with what a reasonable man would call extortion and murder. The perfect crime is that which is done under the color of law.

Just as a rose by any other name is still a rose, so to a murder by court decree which intentionally and without cause terminates the life of a good and decent human is still a murder.

Hitler had his courts. Florida has its courts. In this instance they are a mirror of purpose and result.

32 posted on 10/29/2003 4:47:54 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)

I think it's telling that Michael is going on with Larry King, who has a reputation for no hard questions and no research, and the Schindlers go on with a lawyer like Greta who they know will ask them some tough ones.

I would like to see Michael with Greta, and give the Schindlers a chance with Larry King.

33 posted on 10/29/2003 5:14:35 AM PST by I still care

To: sweetliberty

I am listening to MS brother Steve, on the Micheal Mshconish (sp) program, and he reports that the money (at least some) being paid to MS attorney, is from Terri's settlement money.The reasoning being that he was once Terri's lawyer. What a sick and ironic twist of fate.

34 posted on 10/29/2003 5:21:50 AM PST by fml

To: sweetliberty

I managed to get up in time for the radio interview with MS's brother Steve and Michael Smerconish

It's on now .. I'll report back later

35 posted on 10/29/2003 5:26:04 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

To: sweetliberty

And I might add it's a very interesting interview

The radio guy is being very fair .. he is asking good questions and letting Steven fully answer the questions

36 posted on 10/29/2003 5:32:55 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

Boy I did a hatchet job on Smerconish's name. Steve S also claims to KNOW that Terri said during a movie that she would never want to live like that, and they have conseidered her dead for 13 years now. I guess he is just trying to stand by his brother but he is not going to sway anyone.

37 posted on 10/29/2003 5:32:56 AM PST by fml

After the break, Michael is going to ask the brother why Terri's "wishes to die" didn't come out until years later......

38 posted on 10/29/2003 5:33:34 AM PST by mickie

Boy I did a hatchet job on Smerconish's name

LOL .. I went to the talk radio website to cut & paste his name because I would never be able to spell it

39 posted on 10/29/2003 5:34:47 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

Yes I know .. I'm sitting here writing down notes so I won't forget what Steven said

Just one question .. is this the brother the testified that heard Terrys wishes??

40 posted on 10/29/2003 5:36:52 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

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