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The dirty secret smart Democrats know (but won't admit) about Trump
Fox News Opinion ^ | February 13, 2017 | Douglas E. Schoen, Democratic pollster and consultant

Posted on 02/12/2017 7:42:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Trump's shocking victory in November and the tumultuous beginning of his presidency have shattered many assumptions about American politics.

For many liberals and progressives, the weeks since Donald Trump’s inauguration have been filled with soul-searching and even confusion about their place in American politics.

Trump’s flurry of executive orders, coming in quick succession on matters ranging from federal employment and immigration to reorganizing the National Security Council, have driven deep division within the Democratic party. The reaction to Trump’s action have pitted pragmatic, center-left politicians against protesting activists forming “The Resistance.”

Many Democratic disagreements with Trump’s executive orders are valid and there is a clear opportunity for opposition to Trump on the basis of their faults and flaws.

However, if Democrats want to win back power they cannot do so by moving further left, resisting Trump at every move, and taking to the streets.

Put simply, the Democratic Party is on life support and there is a quiet, but ruthless, war being fought over its future....

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: democrats; dncstrategy; fearfuldems; first100days; polls; trump; trump45; warren
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To: usafa92
God sometimes send the most unlikely of servants. Whomwould have thought that Donald Trump would be the one to save the Republican Party from itself?

He did, indeed. I felt it, that evening. ..and yes, who would have thunk it? Donald Trump?!?!?

Mysterious ways.....mysterious ways.....
21 posted on 02/12/2017 8:27:03 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Williams

Trump should be able to pick off more black voters than he has so far, particularly black men.

He should have placed more emphasis on illegal immigrants taking jobs away from black men who are not college grads.


22 posted on 02/12/2017 8:27:32 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Williams

“All this DNC on life support is way overstated. All they need is the black vote to turn out, and some more illegals and legals, and they will take America like they took California.”

Hopefully Joe Manchin will break off and form a third party, taking the other Blue Dogs with him.


23 posted on 02/12/2017 8:28:11 PM PST by Mafe
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To: JBW1949

`Many Democratic disagreements with Trump`s executive orders are valid...`

Yeah, I caught that too. That`s how the MSM operate. They just throw stuff like that out there without giving any examples to back it up in order to come across as neutral, or to simply promote a false narrative. No wonder people despise the media.


24 posted on 02/12/2017 8:29:31 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: Williams
All this DNC on life support is way overstated. All they need is the black vote to turn out, and some more illegals and legals, and they will take America like they took California.

Totally agree - the left is patient and has been working for decades to turn us basically communist. So much of the agenda has now been mainstreamed that would have been unthinkable as recently as before zero was elected. It wasn't that long ago that many thought the right was dead - and in fact many former right policies aren't even defended by the right anymore. We cannot be complacent.

25 posted on 02/12/2017 8:31:33 PM PST by Aria (2017: Stay strong POTUS - the left lost control of trillions & will do anything to regain power.)
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To: Doogle
As the Democratic Party shifted ever leftwards under Obama, it suffered net losses of 11 Senate seats, 62 House seats, and 10 governorships since 2010, as well as nearly 1000 state legislative seats.

You might be right - I don't see how they can continue as a party if their solution is to 'do more of the same - only MORE leftist'...

26 posted on 02/12/2017 8:32:43 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrats appoint activist 'judges' to legislate from the bench. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And prior to Nov 8 those on both sides of the aisle were talking about the demise of the GOP.


27 posted on 02/12/2017 8:35:44 PM PST by doug from upland (Are we dreaming or is Hillary finally really gone?)
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To: Williams

But if they lose forty million illegals and if voter ID becomes supported by a differently constituted supreme court they are toast.

Which is why their violence will escalate.


28 posted on 02/12/2017 10:24:17 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: usafa92
If you watch the Oprah interview with Trump from 1988, he pretty clearly explains that there's a lot of problems in the country he loves and if no one will step up to the plate to fix the problems, then he'd consider it.....the time is now.
29 posted on 02/12/2017 11:12:37 PM PST by Jaysin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...if Democrats want to win back power they cannot do so by moving further left”

Shhhh... don’t tell them; that’ll be our little secret. I pray they’ll go farther left as far and fast as possible. We win even bigger in 2018!


30 posted on 02/12/2017 11:17:08 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (“Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." A. Einstein)
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To: Mafe
Is there any chance of Manchin and maybe another red-dem senator defecting to the Republicans? That would be the equivalent to the democrats as to a massive tsunami hitting the LA area. They would go absolutely berserk.
31 posted on 02/12/2017 11:22:59 PM PST by Jaysin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Great article save for this turd quote:

Many Democratic disagreements with Trump’s executive orders are valid and there is a clear opportunity for opposition to Trump on the basis of their faults and flaws.

32 posted on 02/12/2017 11:23:38 PM PST by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As abhorrent as the rioting and idiotic protests have been, it’s to the benefit of conservatives for them to continue, so long as it does not spread outside of leftist enclaves. The effective offensive fronts on the right need to keep up the pressure, in the same forms that have led to Trump’s electoral success. That runs the gamut, from Reddit and 4Chan to controversial campus speeches by Milo and others to President Trump and his terse but lethal Tweeting that drives even some on the right nuts. It worked. Keep going. The fools are driving themselves into the ground. Don’t give them a lifeline now.


33 posted on 02/12/2017 11:32:11 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: euram

it is going on but it is with the sheep who fallow them. a lot of the vote democrat because they believe the lies are watching and are very troubled by what they see. I believe if trump plays it right he can peel away at two groups that support him. inner city poor blacks and the non politicaly active gay community. those that view there sexuality as there reason for political activities are lost causes along with black racist’s. all trump has to do is have his actions speak louder then the lies that those who call them selves leaders speak.


34 posted on 02/13/2017 12:11:26 AM PST by PCPOET7 (in)
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To: exDemMom
Schoen is the guy who withdrew his endorsement of Clinton in the final weeks after the second Comey announcement.

-PJ

35 posted on 02/13/2017 12:21:30 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: bigbob

I agree about Jessica T - can’t stand her voice and she speaks really quickly. She’s on various “panels” as the “token Dim” on Fox News and Fox Biz channels quite often.


36 posted on 02/13/2017 3:43:43 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and Protect our Troops and their CIC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sheesh, what hand-wringing.

Every time a major party gets trounced they change up the players and re-emerge in a few years.

The Republicans just did it (much to the anger and chagrin of the old guard).

This is not difficult to figure out if one steps above the noise for bit. Plus it helps to live through a few of these cycles to see it, or maybe even study history (gasp!).


37 posted on 02/13/2017 5:29:56 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: GOPJ; Doogle

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You might be right - I don’t see how they can continue as a party if their solution is to ‘do more of the same - only MORE leftist’...
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Oh, there’s entirely more ‘*FREE* sh!t’ they can promise; they’ve used the same for over 100yrs successfully.


38 posted on 02/13/2017 7:03:22 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73
Oh, there’s entirely more ‘*FREE* sh!t’ they can promise; they’ve used the same for over 100yrs successfully.

Here's the problem with 'more free sh!t: after 8 years of Obama they've gotten all the big free stuff... and the 'little' free stuff won't work...

The carrot's eaten.

Only thing left for democrats is 'the stick' - - which is what their riots and chaos are all about...

That will fail.

We'll get them on lawlessness soon. Leaving them with nothing - how many more 'sexual freakout causes' are left? Not many.

Democrats are finished. Toast. Yesterday's news.

39 posted on 02/13/2017 8:27:29 AM PST by GOPJ (Democrats appoint activist 'judges' to legislate from the bench. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish nobody would tell the Dems what’s going on. Let it be a big surprise!


40 posted on 02/13/2017 9:13:50 AM PST by jch10 (President Trump, President Trump, President Trump! I just love saying that!)
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