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Clinton stumbling in Democrat-friendly Michigan
The Fresno Bee ^ | September 16, 2016 | David Lightman

Posted on 09/16/2016 9:31:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary Clinton’s lead in Michigan, regarded as a strong state for the Democratic nominee, is slipping.

Clinton is ahead of Donald Trump, 38-35 percent, in a new Detroit Free Press/WXYZ poll. Michigan has voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1992. Libertarian Gary Johnson had 10 percent support, while the Green Party’s Jill Stein had 4 percent.

Trump’s gains have included white voters and men. Clinton was ahead by 2 last month while Trump now is ahead by 8. Clinton had a slight edge among men in August, but Trump is now up 5. Her backing in union households was down 8 points, while Trump’s was up 8.

Clinton also plunged with 18 to 34 year old voters. Her 24 point lead has shrunk to 7....

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Michigan; Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016swingstates; clinton; hillary2016; mi2016; michigan; trump
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1 posted on 09/16/2016 9:31:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Johnson-Weld, for anyone considering dating Lorena Bobbitt.


2 posted on 09/16/2016 9:33:14 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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3 posted on 09/16/2016 9:33:30 AM PDT by Nachum (ISIS is alive... and Chris Stevens is dead)
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I think she stumbled yesterday on the stairs of that airplane she was boarding. They show her about to step on the landing, and suddenly the video skips to show her halfway up the staircase.

I think CNN deliberately cut out the section showing her stumble.

4 posted on 09/16/2016 9:33:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That was a disappointing story under a tantalizing headline.


5 posted on 09/16/2016 9:34:38 AM PDT by Genoa (deplorable)
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I remember back in 2008, Duncan Hunter was campaigning in the MI primary. He gave a great speech about jobs. He spoke about trade deals. He spoke about exporting jobs overseas. He spoke about immigration policies. He spoke about taxes and regulations. Hunter explained to the people of Michigan (and elsewhere) that the economy suffers because dumb politicians enact dumb policies. He explained that he could fix it.

Hunter got about 3% in the MI primary.

Maybe Michigan is wising up. Because Trump knows how to fix the economy. Hillary will do the same bang-up job as all the other establishment pols.


6 posted on 09/16/2016 9:37:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Nachum

Hillary RV. (Resuscitation Vehicle)


7 posted on 09/16/2016 9:39:31 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any pool for when Trump nationally tops 50%?


8 posted on 09/16/2016 9:46:31 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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The Michigan electorate is something like 80%-85% non-Hispanic White, and full of conservatives (unlike New England) - this state was always in play for Republicans, but they were TOO STUPID to even try there. But the Dems knew all along that Trump’s message was always PERFECT FOR MICHIGAN (and other Rust Belt states). That’s why they went into an ABSOLUTE PANIC when Trump announced and then formulated his campaign to address their needs.

About the only thing that I’m surprised about is that it took this long to start showing up in the polling...but now, yes, even Michigan will be a red state, at least this year.


9 posted on 09/16/2016 9:49:16 AM PDT by BobL (If Hillary wins, there WILL NOT be another contested election, for decades - AMNESTY)
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Here’s the great thing about states like Michigan that were considered sure things but now have Trump neck-and-neck with Hillary even if she has a couple of points lead: Hillary now has to spend time, money, and energy in trying not to let her slender lead slip even more. Colorado is another perfect example of such a state that looked overwhelming safe for Hillary just a few weeks ago, but now shows a lead for Trump.

Myself and others here predicted several months ago that this is exactly what was going to happen, namely that Trump’s popularity was going to force Hillary to spread her precious resources amongst many states that should have been safe for her.


10 posted on 09/16/2016 9:52:06 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Reno89519

“Any pool for when Trump nationally tops 50%?”

maybe you could interest predictit.com to start one.


11 posted on 09/16/2016 9:53:08 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Johnson-Weld, for anyone considering dating Lorena Bobbitt.

She's going to be left hungry.

12 posted on 09/16/2016 9:54:04 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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"Johnson-Weld, for anyone considering dating Lorena Bobbitt."

Johnson-Weld... Is that a person or a product?

13 posted on 09/16/2016 9:55:23 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: Reno89519

Nationally? Next week.


14 posted on 09/16/2016 9:55:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Mr. K

Sounds like a product developed for John Bobbitt.


15 posted on 09/16/2016 9:56:36 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michigan is a working-man and hunting state.

He should go on about Hillary’s gun grabbing policies, along with how he can bring back jobs.


16 posted on 09/16/2016 9:58:06 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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I agree. Will need more popcorn for the show.


17 posted on 09/16/2016 10:00:04 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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To: Reno89519

Any pool for when Trump nationally tops 50%?


No The media will not report on it when it happens. Only a few days before the election will the real poll results be released.


18 posted on 09/16/2016 10:00:08 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: BobL

Michigan has 83 counties, and roughly 7 of them determine the vote in federal elections.

What most people don’t know is that Michigan has a huge free traitor republican contingent. Plenty of RINOs are in bed with the chinese there, and pass domestic technology to them for production.

The republicans in Michigan are of the YEB!/Cruz scorched earth globalist variety. They would rather destroy all of industry than give up their influence of the global outsourcing/offshoring markets.

This is why they will back hitlery. They have much more in common with the progressive free traders than they do with the Trump “Make America Great Again” crowd.


19 posted on 09/16/2016 10:11:22 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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I see Michigan a bit differently.

Heavily Democratic Detroit has lost three quarters of its population in the past fifty years.

Meanwhile the Democratic and Republican establishment have signed trade agreements crushing Michigan industry and jobs.

Don’t be shocked if Trump wins the state.


20 posted on 09/16/2016 10:51:23 AM PDT by cgbg (Warning: This post has not been fact-checked by the Democratic National Committee.)
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