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The Trump-Clinton Race Is Not As Close As It Looks
National Journal ^ | May 30, 2016 | Charlie Cook

Posted on 05/31/2016 4:38:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Mike Darancette

Trump in a landslide. Redstate, rightscoop and many others will be apoplectic. Love it!


41 posted on 05/31/2016 5:52:26 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2016)
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To: Utmost Certainty; All

yes- here’s the reality: for the first four months of 2016 the narrative was the GOP was eating itself alive and was a divided party in which no one would support Trump despite the immense backing he had from the electorate...but the narrative has now changed:

“In short, the parties have not evolved at the same rate. Trump has had the Re­pub­lic­an field to him­self and has be­gun heal­ing party wounds, such as he can, while Clin­ton has not yet been af­forded that op­por­tun­ity be­cause she has been busy fight­ing off Sanders.”

so now the story line goes, even though the rats are eating themselves alive don’t worry- hillary, who could be indicted at any time and still has the clinton foundation scandal in her way never mind the fact she does not have the same support of the electorate when compared to Trump, will win the nomination and the rats (who may be on the verge of kicking out party leader debbie awful hairdo shcultz) will come together...

more media nonsense...


42 posted on 05/31/2016 5:52:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: lquist1

Are you going to vote for Trump or just not vote since your man, Cruz has lost out?????


43 posted on 05/31/2016 5:54:07 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Nice try, but I’ve been pro-Trump ever since he announced.


44 posted on 05/31/2016 5:54:12 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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To: BobL

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012

Republicans may be heading toward complete control of Washington—maintaining the House, taking the Senate, and likely capturing the White House—if Election Day 2012 unfolds as Charlie Cook, acclaimed vote counter, predicts.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/17/charlie-cook-sees-gop-winning-big-in-2012


45 posted on 05/31/2016 5:54:28 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

INCREDIBLE...this guy need to take a shower.


46 posted on 05/31/2016 5:55:47 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

or find a new job...


47 posted on 05/31/2016 5:56:54 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is behind a paywall!


48 posted on 05/31/2016 5:59:26 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the truth was known, Hillary 25%-—Trump 75%...the paid off talking heads and radio show hosts don’t want to report it; the media twits aren’t smart enough; the MSM lies so much no one would believe it anyway...

But you heard it here first, the truth will come out and when it does, Hillary is NOT going to be in the White House, she’ll be in a house, one with bars on it...


49 posted on 05/31/2016 6:05:03 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. Hence my comment. Like I said, at least you are toning ti down.


50 posted on 05/31/2016 6:06:14 PM PDT by reaganaut (I am not "reaganaut1".)
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To: reaganaut

2DV is a good freeper.

I see no evidence of TDS in this post.


51 posted on 05/31/2016 6:07:14 PM PDT by Bobalu (Government treats you like a milk cow. If things get tough, they will treat you like a beef cow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think UpChuck Todd is playing fast and loose with the poll cited in the article. Since I didn't find a link to the poll, I'm not sure where he gets off adding 70% of Sanders voters to Hillary. Those should have been separate poll questions.

On NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday, the al­ways-pres­ci­ent mod­er­at­or Chuck Todd said much the same thing but ap­proached it in an­oth­er way. First Todd poin­ted to the May 15-19 NBC News/Wall Street Journ­al poll, not­ing that Sanders bested Trump in the sur­vey by 15 points, 54 to 39 per­cent, while Clin­ton had a scant 3-point edge over Trump, 46 to 43 per­cent. Todd then cal­cu­lated that if 70 per­cent of the voters who sup­por­ted Sanders against Trump sub­sequently moved in­to Clin­ton’s corner, she would then have an 8-point lead, 51 to 43 per­cent.

The only way you can add a percentage of one candidate's voters to another candidate is if the question where phrased as a three-way race. There is no indication that it was.

"Ceterum censeo Hillary esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

52 posted on 05/31/2016 6:07:16 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Maine Mariner

It also doesn’t take into account the nationalist vs. globalist and establishment factors. I know more than a few Sanders supporters who hate Hillary more than Trump simply because she is a ‘globalist establishment type’


53 posted on 05/31/2016 6:08:02 PM PDT by reaganaut (I am not "reaganaut1".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read it. It paints the race in terms of party affiliation, and party loyalty. If the portrait is accurate, then no one the Republicans nominated was going to win.


54 posted on 05/31/2016 6:08:10 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: cornfedcowboy

History of behavior after boss said no go.


55 posted on 05/31/2016 6:08:56 PM PDT by reaganaut (I am not "reaganaut1".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have yet to find ONE person who is saying they will vote for Hillary.

And when she wins the presidency (I believe that her and the CPUSA already have that wrapped up... why else would she not have press conferences ? She was FORCED to campaign this year by the DNC) I will still ask around for anyone who voted for her.

She’s kept afloat since day 1 by corruption and election fraud. And I have to repeat this everywhere I go: If Bernie is on the ballot, her win will be mathematically _impossible_.


56 posted on 05/31/2016 6:10:29 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: God luvs America

I refuse to give this article any credibility. I sadly wasted over 8 years of my life rooting for Mittens to be POTUS—and I vividly remember so many pundits/pollsters predicting he was going to win last time. And, Mittens proved to be a horrible nominee who never put up much of a fight. No one can say that Trump won’t exhaust every ounce of his phenomenal energy to emerge victorious in November. Therefore, I am now extremely suspicious of polling going forward because I firmly believe that all TPTB are hell bent on spinning narratives to mislead voters about the actual state of the race.
Finally, Mr. Trump is already my president in my heart and I cannot accept that a man of his august caliber will lose to the likes of Crooked Hillary!! Mr. Trump MUST BE THE NEXT LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD!!!


57 posted on 05/31/2016 6:10:37 PM PDT by edie1960 (w)
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To: Utmost Certainty

That’s fantastic. You’re still a whiny Eeyore now.


58 posted on 05/31/2016 6:12:50 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: reaganaut

Exactly what part of the article was Anti-Trump....

Tirade? .... seriously?


59 posted on 05/31/2016 6:13:13 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone..)
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To: lquist1
I think this article has merit — I have seen this same line of thinking articulated in numerous places and it’s true, once the Dems coalesce around Hillary, it will be a much different race.

Where I have trouble understanding this is that the current polls are Hillary and Trump, no Bernie in site. So if a Bernie supporter is polled, do they choose Hillary or Trump? And do they stick by that in the general?

Just not clear on how wrapping up the Dem primary changes much.

60 posted on 05/31/2016 6:17:35 PM PDT by Kenny (e)
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