Posted on 04/13/2016 1:18:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
How are those divergent? Cruz would be acceptable. But he has no chance of winning without a brokered convention, and if a brokered convention happens, the GOPe will use it to install a RINO of their choice. They are using Cruz to halt Trump, nothing more. And Cruz is basically undoing the anti-GOPe majority in the primaries so far by going along with this.
Pinging Jim since you mentioned him.
I spent a lot of time here on FR during the last two elections and thought that Freepers were average people. We are not. We are the far right, maybe 5%. I was shocked both elections. Not any more.
LIE about all his real views and pretend he was never for an “assault weapons ban”, longer waiting periods for all gun purchases, socialized medicine, abortion on demand (including partial birth abortion)...and Hillary Clinton for President.
People are coming to understand that someone who postures as a conservative is less desirable than someone who isn’t but is honest about it and will deal with conservatives fairly rather than the contempt we get from “conservative” “leaders”.
“I was referring to the pronouncement of the website owner.”
I am not aware of the pronouncement you are referring to. But I do know that Jim has been supportive of Cruz in the past. He was not a Cruz hater. And he did not say Cruz “is toast... is finished... is over” back in Iowa, in Texas, or in Florida, like all of the Cruz haters have been doing since before the first primary / caucus.
Trump has insulted all of the republican candidates;
Jeb, low energy, loser
Santorum, lightweight, loser
Rubio, little Marco
Carson, psychotic (pedophile?)
Fiorina, horse face
Perry, dumb, puts on glasses to look smart
Graham, stiff, beggar for money
Christie, Fat slob oompaloompa
Jindal, "He drove me here"
Kasich, His wife never climaxed
Paul, A poor version of his father
and of course,
Cruz, Lying Ted.
But, he is YUGE and he has an airplane. What a guy...
This is the first time I posted that, and it’s because of Wisconsin.
You’ve got it exactly backwards.
If conservative means GOP then Trump is certainly not conservative.
He loves this country and wants to stop illegal immigration...that’s good enough for me.
Hang onto your hat. Trump is going to win the next 5-7 primaries with Cruz coming in third in most or second in maybe one.
Cruz is just not popular with the GOP voters which is why he consistently polls in the mid to low 20’s. He is now engaging in loser level antics trying to get delegates to side with him for a second ballot win which will never happen. He is in the Hail Mary phase of of his candidacy and will soon begin to hear the calls for him to exit the race.
You and the trump supporters have been saying this since Trump lost in Iowa.
Cruz is done Cruz is done.
The more conservative people are, the more they support Cruz.
National polls show this more and more.
I think Trump will win his home state of New York. After that, I am not sure of anything. I think Cruz has very good chance of winning California.
If Cruz keeps Trump from getting 1237, he has a good chance of winning the second ballot with more than 1237 delegates for his nomination.
We’ll see who is toast. You should go back and read post number 28.
What an excellent response to you:
“Ted Cruz is toast, as has been observed on this site.”
Yeah. You and many other Cruz haters have been saying that since before Iowa. Has not helped your candidate even one iota.
If Trump and his supporters had simply argued why his candidacy was superior, rather than engaging in juvenile antics, he would have already had more than 1237 delegates.
Trump got bad advice on this. Taunting and mocking the media worked. Taunting and mocking every other candidate weakened him. His supporters followed suit.
Cruz has a large number (millions) of die hard supporters. He has the best conservative ratings from every conservative organization. Maligning him has been a foolish tactic.
Trump could have easily upstaged him on managerial experience, business and finance experience, negotiating experience, and drilled home that Cruz is a junior senator that has no bills and needs more time to season.
Instead, he and his supporters have accentuated the difference being that Trump is not so conservative. Trump is running on a conservative platform. He knows he need a conservative core. His supporters seem to think the conservative vote is unimportant.
The reality is that Trump can win the nomination and lose the general if he does not unite the base and bring over the Cruz supporters.
And if Trump and his supporters remain off message, they just may hand the nomination to Cruz.
Your post number 28 was excellent. Here it is again:
We’ll see who is toast. You should go back and read post number 28.
What an excellent response to you:
“Ted Cruz is toast, as has been observed on this site.”
Yeah. You and many other Cruz haters have been saying that since before Iowa. Has not helped your candidate even one iota.
If Trump and his supporters had simply argued why his candidacy was superior, rather than engaging in juvenile antics, he would have already had more than 1237 delegates.
Trump got bad advice on this. Taunting and mocking the media worked. Taunting and mocking every other candidate weakened him. His supporters followed suit.
Cruz has a large number (millions) of die hard supporters. He has the best conservative ratings from every conservative organization. Maligning him has been a foolish tactic.
Trump could have easily upstaged him on managerial experience, business and finance experience, negotiating experience, and drilled home that Cruz is a junior senator that has no bills and needs more time to season.
Instead, he and his supporters have accentuated the difference being that Trump is not so conservative. Trump is running on a conservative platform. He knows he need a conservative core. His supporters seem to think the conservative vote is unimportant.
The reality is that Trump can win the nomination and lose the general if he does not unite the base and bring over the Cruz supporters.
And if Trump and his supporters remain off message, they just may hand the nomination to Cruz.
Well since you seem into the polls Trump is leading by a wide margin in the upcoming NE primaries. Cruz is likely to come in third in all but one. its going to have a devastating effect on his campaign. Only about 25% of the GOP voters want Cruz as the nominee. You cannot win that way.
The reality is that the GPOe & the Democrats are playing Cruz and his supporters like violins.
All the Democrat Machine in Wisconsin had to do to deliver Trump to the November election and his "inevitable slaughter" at the hands of Hillary or any other Democrat was to make sure that Cruz lost.
Instead, they made sure that Cruz won.
Why do you suppose they would do that? :)
What you described is nationalism, a part of conservatism.
But at this point, ideological purity strikes me as a losing proposition. We need a Republican attitude adjustment*.
*And me and him just never did get along
Cause he just wasn’t treating my sister nice.
He got drunk one night and started and beating me up
And I went and got a tire tool out of my truck
And straightened him out as cold as a block of ice.
It was an attitude adjustment and it’ll work every time.
An attitude adjustment-I made him see the light.
Now he says I’m his kind of man,
He comes around me with his hat in his hand
It was an attitude adjustment; I cured his family pride..
-—Hank Williams
Pretty much where this is headed.
I wonder if Cruz ever took the time to read your open letter to him.
Nothing good is going to come out of this game the gop is playing. Damn selfish greedy amnesty lovers. Who are these freaks???
Sorry Jim, I've been a bit testy lately. FR is usually my refuge when I need a break from my alumni chat room infested by liberal Seattle lawyers. lol
Trump has been saying the exact same things on the trade issue since the 1980s in several interviews and in the full page ad he took out in the NYT and WaPo in 1988. He even gave a speech around that time in New Hampshire that dealt foremost with how other countries are ripping us off at trade.
As far as the other two main issues of his campaign are concerned, he first called for cracking down on illegal immigration and terrorists in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. Terrorism in particular was a major focus of the book. He devoted a sizeable chapter to it and brought it up in various other places in the book. He also criticized Bill Clinton on the topic in the book.
In his discussion of the harm of illegal immigration, he specifically said that the interests of Americans needed to be placed before that of immigrants and that illegals need to leave the country. By the time of his 2011 book, Time to Get Tough, he was calling for a border wall. On the issues he's primarily running on, he's been pretty consistent over the years actually.
He told Pamela geller that she was provoking the terrorist attacks in garland Texas last year.
Trump does not provide a consistent message on terrorism or any topic.
He funds candidates who explicitly refute his positions and enact the policies he says he opposes.
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