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Why isn't Ted Cruz doing better in the polls? What's your opinion? (Vanity)
me ^ | 10/22/15 | me

Posted on 10/22/2015 6:07:21 AM PDT by Artemis Webb

In every poll I see, Ted Cruz is a distant 4th, sometimes 5th. The guy has a very well organized ground game. He's knowledgable. He acts presidential. So why isn't he doing better in the polls?

I'm interested in opinions.


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To: DaxtonBrown
But I suspect some of this changes as the debates continue and others continue to blather. Can’t wait until there are only five on stage.

From your lips to God's ear. I think so, too.

61 posted on 10/22/2015 7:28:26 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Steely Tom

“There is NOTHING more conservative than stopping a permanent democrat/marxist voting majority and doing whats best for the people and the country. By virtue of Mr.Trump’s position on illegal immigration he “Trumps” all others conservatism.”


62 posted on 10/22/2015 7:42:21 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Artemis Webb
Because Trump and Carson are doing better. Cruz would also be an excellent President.

Trump is by far the best. He is the only candidate who has enough energy, fight, and other resources to reverse the decline of America.

Carson and Cruz are also good--but not as good.

Whether Cruz or Carson would be a better choice for Vice President is toss-up. I would prefer Cruz, but I'd be very happy with Carson.

63 posted on 10/22/2015 7:43:11 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
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To: Tonytitan
He’s well known on FreeRepublic. He’s either unknown to the rest of America...

I don't buy the "nobody knows who Cruz is" malarkey. He was in the limelight several times, mostly at odds with the RINO establishment in his attempts to shut down the federal government, and EVERYONE knew him then, if only to hate him as the liberals did.

64 posted on 10/22/2015 7:50:34 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Don't wring your hands too much. It's a long time before the election. There is an old saying in politics that you don't want to "peak" too soon. The probability of Trump staying on top for another year is unlikely. Meanwhile Cruz has money, more than most. He has a ground game in all 50 states already, the others, not so much.

I'm not saying Carson or someone else might not float to the top, but Trump would have to stay on top for a long time to get elected. With his mouth,....I just doubt it.

It's already clear Cruz is the smartest guy on a stage, but he doesn't get the exposure needed to be a factor yet.

As for him not getting into the food fight with the rest of them, if you notice, he hasn't said anything about anyone in the group. People seem to think he has some sort of agreement with Trump to leave him alone. I haven't heard anything about Fiorina, Carson, Rubio, et al. He's just a nice man that has been portrayed as a bomb thrower. If you stand before the SCOTUS, you don't want to call them names to win your argument. Why make comments about your fellow candidates and ignore Hillary? IMHO, this will come to the top at some point, when people are sick and tired of the name calling and want to hear more solutions.

Cruz is the smartest candidate with all the ideas and it will show soon enough. Timing the popularity of a candidate is the Holy Grail of consultants and so far Cruz is holding back, not being #1 and certainly not #15. As well as not wanting the #1 slot this far out, you certainly don't want to make news being #13 with less than 3% or so this far out. The first few primaries will cull out many and cut off money way before the race gets interesting. I won't get nervous until the first couple of primaries come in and Cruz is not in the top 3. If he finishes anywhere in the top 3 or so, the more conservative states will be coming up to make a way for him to slingshot to the top. This is the way it has always worked in the past, but we have not had a #15 person field in my lifetime before.

Having said all this, never underestimate the stupidity of the American conservative voter to eff up everything hanging on to Rand Paul or Santorum till the bitter end. You can already find posts here that talk of "I'll stay home if so and so doesn't win." Then there is always Bush with hundreds of millions of dollars available to take his 5% to the bottomless pit.

65 posted on 10/22/2015 8:16:34 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Artemis Webb

His voice is unpleasant. It sounds like a drill. He dresses poorly. His wife works(ed?) for Goldman Sachs and as much as many of us love Texas the last two Prez’s from there got us into what felt like endless wars. His money man, Sheldon Adelson makes people uncomfortable. All of this is petty but people ARE petty. Heck, a lot of women voted for JFK because he was handsome and Nixon was homely.


66 posted on 10/22/2015 9:17:27 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: stellaluna
"Heck, a lot of women voted for JFK because he was handsome and Nixon was homely."

I remember reading that those that listened to the Nixon/Kennedy debate on the radio thought Nixon won, whereas those who watched on TV thought Kennedy won. Also Nixon refused makeup so looked "sweaty" under the studio lights whereas Kennedy looked cool as a cucumber.

67 posted on 10/22/2015 9:38:15 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb
The bottom line seems to be that Cruz has little name recognition outside of movement conservatives and other political junkies.

Part of that is simply due to the fact that Cruz is a very junior Senator. You may say "so was Obama," and you'd be absolutely right, but Obama had the mass media and the DNC behind him as an anointed celebrity candidate - although initially he was probably being vetted as Hillary's possible VP and pinch-hitter for 2008 rather than the nomination. In contrast, the RNC has done absolutely nothing to promote Cruz's visibility, if anything, they have contributed to his low name recognition by focusing on their candidates of choice.

This means that getting his name and message out there is an uphill battle for Cruz. It's up to him, not others, to do it, and to be fair, he hasn't done very much to increase his name recognition beyond Tea Party stalwart circles and Evangelical activists. There's also the fact that he isn't necessarily the most charismatic candidate on the stage: he's eloquent in a very lawyerly way, but he isn't glib with one-liners like Trump or movie-star slick like Rubio.

All of this is a shame because whatever his flaws, Cruz is one of the best that we have.

68 posted on 10/22/2015 10:33:33 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Artemis Webb

I like Cruz. He’s the smartest boy in the room—except he scares the crap out of too many people because of his willingness to shut down the government.

You can call it standing for principles or you could equally say that he’s a radical anarchist.

The latest poll I’ve seen says that 79% of the American people don’t want the government shut down. Now that 79% has to include a hell of a lot of conservatives who otherwise would approve of Cruz as a fighter.

He needs to learn how to fight without the appeal to a shut down over every issue.


69 posted on 10/22/2015 12:38:35 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's yoIur plan?)
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To: Artemis Webb

Ted Cruz is that guy who shut down the givernment!!


70 posted on 10/22/2015 1:06:41 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I envision him in either a Pilgim costume or a Bela Lugosi cape


71 posted on 10/22/2015 7:52:16 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Artemis Webb

Reverse speech.


72 posted on 10/26/2015 12:43:24 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: Artemis Webb
"Why isn't Ted Cruz doing better in the polls? What's your opinion?"

Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

X number of column inches in the papers and x number minutes of TV news time and x number of space for links on the front page of a website near the top.

Squeaky Wheel gets the lions share of the premium news coverage, whether it be in print or on TV or on the websites. Reagan was before the internets but he was bodacious and yes even obnoxious at times (as far as the liberal media was concerned) He sucked all the air out of the room with good hard American talk. Which put him on the front page of all the papers above the fold and on the nightly news.

Trump paid attention.

73 posted on 10/26/2015 12:52:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: fwdude

Yea. I can’t believe that the media ignores him like this. It’s the morning of the Col debate and Fox mentioned every candidate in the debate except Cruz.


74 posted on 10/28/2015 7:14:47 AM PDT by RightLady (It's gotta be Cruiz)
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To: RightLady
It’s the morning of the Col debate and Fox mentioned every candidate in the debate except Cruz.

Yes, it's conspicuous by its blatantness.

75 posted on 10/28/2015 7:40:19 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Ted Cruz is a constitutional conservative unlike we’ve seen since Ronald Reagan. The media, democrats, republican establishment HATED Ronald Reagan. They all threw their energies into defeating him.

National polls? They are a crock of Ca Ca.


76 posted on 10/31/2015 5:52:33 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: wildbill

Exactly the way my young adult son feels about him. My son equates shutting down the government to not paying your mortgage, which he argues is foolish and dangerous. He is not and never will be a Democrat supporter, but he doesn’t like any of the Republicans running either.


77 posted on 10/31/2015 6:12:53 AM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

I have yet to discover a really good outcome for the Republicans— and America— if the government shuts down and the Republicans are blamed for it.


78 posted on 10/31/2015 3:26:27 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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