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Frank Luntz on the Hatred of the Establishment Revealed by a Pro-Trump Focus Group: "This is real...
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Posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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FULL TITLE: Frank Luntz on the Hatred of the Establishment Revealed by a Pro-Trump Focus Group: "This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking."
1 posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We keep voting for the people who say the right things, over the people who say the wrong things. But then the people we vote for don’t do what they said. Yeah we’re mad at them.


2 posted on 08/26/2015 6:58:13 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even if the establishment tried to correct this - who would believe them? Not I!!!


3 posted on 08/26/2015 7:00:24 PM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: DannyTN

People say the right things to one side, others say the right things to the other side. All get paid off handsomely in the end. We have absolute corruption. Call out every one of them.


4 posted on 08/26/2015 7:02:53 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: DannyTN

I want to hear what the American People want. Right now we’re only hearing what the Rich Affluent establishment media moguls and their political minions, the RINO, the GOPe, the Progressives.

Yes it’s true Trump is rich and affluent, But i’m going to put more faith in the recently converted and gamble on Trump. I don’t think anybody has lost any money betting on Trump all the time.


5 posted on 08/26/2015 7:04:25 PM PDT by Fhios (Genius is often mistaken for simplicity.)
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"This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking." :

Frank, try taking the 150 pounds off that you put on over the last few years. Your legs are shaking because they can hardly hold your fat ass up!

6 posted on 08/26/2015 7:05:56 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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The Establishment and their Democrat allies have governed badly, and deserve what naturally follows.


7 posted on 08/26/2015 7:06:54 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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It is my belief that we are witnessing the final overthrow of the Republican party from within. If Trump is elected the Republican party will cease to exist. Yes... there will still be a party called Republican, but it wont be the same party anymore than the Democratic party was the same after the 1968 convention.

The result will be a complete realignment of BOTH political parties.


8 posted on 08/26/2015 7:07:21 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: mmichaels1970
People say the right things to one side, others say the right things to the other side. All get paid off handsomely in the end. We have absolute corruption. Call out every one of them.

Matthew 7:15-20New King James Version (NKJV)
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

(15) “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. (16) You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? (17) Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. (18) A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. (19) Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. (20) Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

9 posted on 08/26/2015 7:08:35 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I'm actually convinced that the "focus group" that Luntz ran on FNC after the first debate was really a "push group." They believed the moderators would set up Trump and Luntz's group of paid shills would convince the rest of us that Trump had crashed and burned.

A funny thing happened on the way to the plan: Frank Luntz got schooled into how impossible it is to flamboozle people with a solid ideology and actual principles.

He should have learned that lesson two years ago, when The Koch Brothers and several other rich CoC pro-illegal groups tried to convince conservatives that "comprehensive immigration reform" was really a "very conservative idea."

American Solutions -- note the Orwellian contradiction inherent in the name -- put on a $100 million ad-buy on talk radio and Fox News, and moved the conservative grass roots position on amnesty exactly zero points in the polls. I'm sure Rush and all the rest were very happy to take their money.

But here's what shocks me: apparently Frank Luntz can be educated. Wow. Who'da thunk it?

10 posted on 08/26/2015 7:10:03 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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Here’s what I think.

Trump has emboldened a lot of people who simply checked out. They haven’t been acting on their anger, because really, what’s the point? Why not just try to go about daily life as best you can...and not worry about how we are getting screwed by obama and how the GOP is more or less facilitating him.

But now people are seeing that they are not alone.

They say, “hey...I sort of like Trump.”

Then they see that he is winning? And they say, “you know what? I REALLY like Trump! And I’m not alone!”

And with that...you soon reach a Tipping Point.


11 posted on 08/26/2015 7:11:07 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If Trump is elected the Republican party will cease to exist.”

Elaborate?

I’m almost thinking...it’s about time for me to get re-involved in the GOP!


12 posted on 08/26/2015 7:12:38 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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Trump doesn’t like Luntz and decided to screw him over by calling him out and saying he wouldn’t hire him and telling Fox he should be fired....knowing a puke like Luntz would take it personally just like he has.

Like most consultants, Luntz is convinced he is the smartest person in any room he happens to walk into.


13 posted on 08/26/2015 7:12:44 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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He has no idea how how real the hate is.


14 posted on 08/26/2015 7:13:20 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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There are freepers who are the same way, clueless.

Here is a tag line from one Freeper:

(Are crybaby Conservatives, calling everyone else RINOs, really Dems trying to get you to not vote?)

If these people have no idea how pissed real conservatives are I hold no hope for the next election. I see it as just another loss even if the republicans win.

The current leadership of the GOP must go even if it means the dems win. If the current leadership is still in place after the election nothing will change.

And I will say it again for the retard with the above tag line, I will not vote rino again period.


15 posted on 08/26/2015 7:14:46 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: ConservativeDude

I like your thoughts.


16 posted on 08/26/2015 7:15:27 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: usconservative

Amen!


17 posted on 08/26/2015 7:17:17 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: bigbob
Like most consultants, Luntz is convinced he is the smartest person in any room he happens to walk into.

It used to be that Luntz WAS the smartest guy in the room when it came to running focus groups. I met him back in 1993 during an Empower America campaign finance and administration seminar. Seemed to be a nice guy, well grounded and smart back then.

Now? Meh, not so much.

18 posted on 08/26/2015 7:21:55 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Da Coyote
He has no idea how how real the hate is.

I think the part he missed is the change in who makes up "likely voters" as a result of Trump's shenanigans ;)

19 posted on 08/26/2015 7:22:23 PM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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This is in microcosm the problem Cruz is having: you can’t say “I sponsored legislation” because now the distrust is so high that ANYTHING short of full victory is assumed to be part of a game.


20 posted on 08/26/2015 7:23:37 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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