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FULL TITLE: Frank Luntz on the Hatred of the Establishment Revealed by a Pro-Trump Focus Group: "This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking."
1 posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We keep voting for the people who say the right things, over the people who say the wrong things. But then the people we vote for don’t do what they said. Yeah we’re mad at them.


2 posted on 08/26/2015 6:58:13 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even if the establishment tried to correct this - who would believe them? Not I!!!


3 posted on 08/26/2015 7:00:24 PM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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"This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking." :

Frank, try taking the 150 pounds off that you put on over the last few years. Your legs are shaking because they can hardly hold your fat ass up!

6 posted on 08/26/2015 7:05:56 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Establishment and their Democrat allies have governed badly, and deserve what naturally follows.


7 posted on 08/26/2015 7:06:54 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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It is my belief that we are witnessing the final overthrow of the Republican party from within. If Trump is elected the Republican party will cease to exist. Yes... there will still be a party called Republican, but it wont be the same party anymore than the Democratic party was the same after the 1968 convention.

The result will be a complete realignment of BOTH political parties.


8 posted on 08/26/2015 7:07:21 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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I'm actually convinced that the "focus group" that Luntz ran on FNC after the first debate was really a "push group." They believed the moderators would set up Trump and Luntz's group of paid shills would convince the rest of us that Trump had crashed and burned.

A funny thing happened on the way to the plan: Frank Luntz got schooled into how impossible it is to flamboozle people with a solid ideology and actual principles.

He should have learned that lesson two years ago, when The Koch Brothers and several other rich CoC pro-illegal groups tried to convince conservatives that "comprehensive immigration reform" was really a "very conservative idea."

American Solutions -- note the Orwellian contradiction inherent in the name -- put on a $100 million ad-buy on talk radio and Fox News, and moved the conservative grass roots position on amnesty exactly zero points in the polls. I'm sure Rush and all the rest were very happy to take their money.

But here's what shocks me: apparently Frank Luntz can be educated. Wow. Who'da thunk it?

10 posted on 08/26/2015 7:10:03 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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Here’s what I think.

Trump has emboldened a lot of people who simply checked out. They haven’t been acting on their anger, because really, what’s the point? Why not just try to go about daily life as best you can...and not worry about how we are getting screwed by obama and how the GOP is more or less facilitating him.

But now people are seeing that they are not alone.

They say, “hey...I sort of like Trump.”

Then they see that he is winning? And they say, “you know what? I REALLY like Trump! And I’m not alone!”

And with that...you soon reach a Tipping Point.


11 posted on 08/26/2015 7:11:07 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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Trump doesn’t like Luntz and decided to screw him over by calling him out and saying he wouldn’t hire him and telling Fox he should be fired....knowing a puke like Luntz would take it personally just like he has.

Like most consultants, Luntz is convinced he is the smartest person in any room he happens to walk into.


13 posted on 08/26/2015 7:12:44 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He has no idea how how real the hate is.


14 posted on 08/26/2015 7:13:20 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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There are freepers who are the same way, clueless.

Here is a tag line from one Freeper:

(Are crybaby Conservatives, calling everyone else RINOs, really Dems trying to get you to not vote?)

If these people have no idea how pissed real conservatives are I hold no hope for the next election. I see it as just another loss even if the republicans win.

The current leadership of the GOP must go even if it means the dems win. If the current leadership is still in place after the election nothing will change.

And I will say it again for the retard with the above tag line, I will not vote rino again period.


15 posted on 08/26/2015 7:14:46 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You might want to find another like of work kLutz.

Like, really.


23 posted on 08/26/2015 7:36:39 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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You might want to find another like of work kLutz.

Like, really.


24 posted on 08/26/2015 7:36:48 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here Frank lemme make it as plain as the fat nose on your face.
In the 2012 election, the GOPe said, get us CONgress and we will put an end to Obamacare. They got the House, could have defunded it and wimped out. Remember the closure of strategic parks and monuments Luntz? Huh?
So, as a result, they then said, we need the Senate also and we will put an end not only to Obamacare, but everything else he is trying to destroy. They got BOTH, the House and the Senate and guess what Luntz. Can you name one GD major issue these worthless, slimy crooks have done that they promised?


29 posted on 08/26/2015 8:05:09 PM PDT by crz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CLUELESS.


35 posted on 08/26/2015 9:17:11 PM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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Isn’t this the same clown who said we witnessed the collapse of Trump after the debate while Drudge was showing a huge win?

Pray America is waking


39 posted on 08/26/2015 9:59:09 PM PDT by bray (Trump and Cruz to the White House)
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They know exactly what we want, they promise it to us every election to get us to vote for them.

They don’t care what we want, that is why after we vote for them they do as they please and treat us like the crazy aunt if we complain.


43 posted on 08/26/2015 10:21:36 PM PDT by Tammy8
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Anybody notice how the the discussion is away from the conservative issues we should be talking about particulatly when it comes to legislation ?
Should we support ?
Government shutdown...
Unread Ominbus bills....?
Approve heads of departments who will not perform their constitutional sworn duty by following the executive branches executive orders which run contrary to the wishes of Congress ?

Thank You media and Mr Trump


45 posted on 08/26/2015 11:04:55 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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“and there are still 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States.”

Another problem. It’s more like 30 million illegals.

The lies are untenable at this point.


47 posted on 08/27/2015 4:39:15 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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