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Were they able to destroy her? Time will tell.
1 posted on 12/29/2012 3:45:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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New party or CWII.

It’s that simple. Blood simple.


2 posted on 12/29/2012 3:59:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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“Rasmussen Polling
Friday, November 07, 2008

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency, even as news reports surface that some McCain staffers think she was a liability.
Only 20% of GOP voters say Palin hurt the party’s ticket, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Six percent (6%) say she had no impact, and five percent (5%) are undecided.
Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.
When asked to choose among some of the GOP’s top names for their choice for the party’s 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year — Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%.
Three other sitting governors – Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota – all pull low single-digit support.
These findings echo a survey earlier this week which found that Republicans were happier with their vice presidential candidate than with their presidential nominee. Seventy-one percent (71%) said McCain made the right choice by picking Palin as his running mate, while only 65% said the party picked the right nominee for president.”


3 posted on 12/29/2012 3:59:36 AM PST by ansel12
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Spot on. This is why I’m done with the Republican Party.


4 posted on 12/29/2012 4:03:06 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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I could have enthusiastically supported Palin. I am disappointed in her in one respect. She waited until the very last minute to announce that she was not running for President. She had a considerable following and her delay in announcing her decision made it hard to solidify backing around a candidate that could defeat Romney in the primaries.
5 posted on 12/29/2012 4:06:50 AM PST by wintertime
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Were they able to destroy her? Time will tell.

Palin is alive and well, the question for the Romney people is, will we go "negative" on Romney?

Personally I would prefer to strengthen and reinforce Palin's influence, and weaken Romney's.

6 posted on 12/29/2012 4:07:15 AM PST by ansel12
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As long as PhonyCon Liberals keep pushing Amnesty Liberals like Marco “La Raza” Rubio, and keep pushing the Hispanic Voter Myth, candidates like Palin and others will keep getting the shaft. The GOP cannot win national and key statewide elections by abandoning the Real Conservative Base


9 posted on 12/29/2012 4:29:24 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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Has anybody noticed that Palin began a fashion crazy for women? Women wearing boots are everywhere.
10 posted on 12/29/2012 4:47:59 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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In 2008, Romney’s surrogates destroyed Gov. Palin
for Obama and Soros.

In 2012, Romney and his Mormon company and team destroyed
every conservative left for Obama and Soros.

Soros ishas been Romney’s partner from the beginning
in JET BLUE and in this.

The GOP is composed of idiots who wanted to lose to the DNC.


14 posted on 12/29/2012 5:05:32 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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This is a very plausible point of view.


15 posted on 12/29/2012 5:06:59 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Romney screwed us, the donors, the nation, all of us.

I’m livid.

FUMR!!!


18 posted on 12/29/2012 5:08:50 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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FLASHBACK:
Romney Ramps up Team Romney's TYPICAL Dirty Tricks in 2008:

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."


"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

19 posted on 12/29/2012 5:11:12 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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All I know for sure is…

And so concludes the author having treated us to a catalog of assertions, virtually all of which having gone unsupported.

He tells us:

he [Romney] ran a pathetic campaign,

and totally alienated the base of the party.

he and his supporters were openly hostile to both the Tea Party and Sarah Palin.

Romney allowed his people to spend four years trashing Governor Palin and the Tea Party.

This cost Romney the election. That and his incoherent campaign

The amount of work that must be done to undo the treachery from Team Romney is massive.

These people are more worried about their own power than the nation as a whole.

They aren’t about to relinquish that power to an outsider

even though that’s exactly what must be done.

It’s not just Romney who is the problem, it’s the entire Republican Party.

I surrender my conservative bona fides no one but I will not permit myself to be stampeded into a series of assumptions and conclusions which are nothing more than the unsupported and mutually inconsistent vituperations of a frustrated Palin supporter. I have long believed that Palin was an authentic conservative but she was not in the race. The author would have you believe that she did not get into the race because of Mitt Romney and his calumnies and not because of her own personal pecuniary interests, or her personal family concerns, or her own missteps. Whatever her reasons for not entering the race, we remain unenlightened by the author, at least if one depends on proof. In her absence, I was among the first on these threads to support Newt Gingrich. At the end of the primary process I did what every other good conservatives did and should have done, I supported Mitt Romney.

Now I support a searching investigation into what went wrong and how to fix it. I have campaigned from the very night of the election when it became obvious that we had lost that we must not draw conclusions until we understand what happened and we cannot understand what happened until we analyze the data. Once again, I turn to Newt Gingrich who has outlined a penetrating and intelligent analysis of how that indispensable job should be undertaken.

Of all the ways a job could be undertaken there is one sure way to get it wrong and that is to prejudge.

It should not be undertaken with feel good diatribes like this. All this does is grant us conservatives a temporary sugar high. It does not enlighten us one damn bit. This is temptation as dangerous as it is beguiling.


22 posted on 12/29/2012 5:31:05 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Thanks 2Div for this anaylsis.It was after Sarah was chosen that things picked up, considerably. Massive crowds started showing up, volunteers showed up to man local GOP offices, and money came pouring in. McCain’s choice of Governor Palin was brilliant. ..People need to be stirred up for a cadidate- McCain was bland, Romney was too- Palin gave hope of real change not just posturing like GHWB who betrayed (many times) the trust conservaties had in him.... people will come out for a real conserative ..
25 posted on 12/29/2012 5:34:25 AM PST by virgil283 ( "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy)
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Sarah needs to run in 2016. We desperately need a true conservative as the front-runner, and Sarah fits that bill. She has enormous name recognition, and she makes liberal heads explode.

Sarah, please run in 2016. The country needs you. Desperately.


28 posted on 12/29/2012 5:42:38 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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They knew that if Sarah Palin ran, Mitt had no chance whatsoever.

Huh? How would anyone know this? Maybe yes, maybe no. Who knows and the author is long on generalities and short on specifics.

Palin is still a young woman and the field is wide open, so doors are not shut on her any more than anyone else.

29 posted on 12/29/2012 5:43:19 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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We need to stop worrying about the last election, or the next one. We need to worry about whether or not we will even still have a country.


33 posted on 12/29/2012 5:55:25 AM PST by McGavin999
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I am staying in the GOP because I feel I can do more damage to the status quo in the primaries.


36 posted on 12/29/2012 6:07:37 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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It’s not just Mitt, or his sycophants, though, it’s the entire Republican Establishment™. These people are more worried about their own power than the nation as a whole. They aren’t about to relinquish that power to an outsider, even though that’s exactly what must be done. These are the same sort who fought Ronald Reagan tooth and nail. The sort who attacked him and spread lies about him. It’s not just Romney who is the problem, it’s the entire Republican Party.

I don't think they'll win another election (presidential). The time is ripe for a 3rd party ... conservative, principled, who PUT THE COUNTRY FIRST. I'm just flippin' done with these guys .... either voting 3rd party or not at all because I don't think they'll be able to put up any candidates that I feel good about. They've well and truly exhausted/lost their "hold your nose and vote" base.

38 posted on 12/29/2012 6:22:52 AM PST by MissMagnolia (.)
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39 posted on 12/29/2012 6:24:18 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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T.E.A. Party:

Fiscal responsibility.
Constitutionally limited government.
Free market economics.


41 posted on 12/29/2012 6:35:59 AM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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