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Latest Romney Revelation Has Me Incredibly Angry
A Time For Choosing ^ | December 28, 2012 | Gary P. Jackson

Posted on 12/29/2012 3:45:16 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Just before the Christmas break the Boston Globe published a lengthy postmortem on Mitt Romney’s massive failure as a presidential candidate. Between this, and the constant hand-wringing by Geniuses of the GOP™, I think we have beaten this dead horse to a pulp, but there was one thing that came out of this article that has me as angry as I have ever been over a politician.

Before we get to that, let’s step back in time to 2008. Like 2012, the Republican Party didn’t exactly put forth an all-star field of candidates for voters to choose from. In the end it came down to Mitt Romney, Corupt-o-crat Mike Huckabee, and John McCain. With McCain in the lead, and on a bit of a winning streak, Romney did the right thing and bowed out. Huckabee hung on a little longer, for no particular reason. McCain became the nominee.

As you know, McCain had been running his campaign on a shoestring, at one point he was flying commercial and carrying his own bags. Obviously, the situation improved. But McCain was short of campaign staff, so here comes Mitt Romney and his people to the rescue. All well and good, so far. McCain still had problems and was down in the polls until he picked his running mate, Governor Sarah Palin. It was after Sarah was chosen that things picked up, considerably. Massive crowds started showing up, volunteers showed up to man local GOP offices, and money came pouring in. McCain’s choice of Governor Palin was brilliant.

Dishonest media hacks have tried to sell the lie that Governor Palin cost McCain the election, something many in the GOP, especially those loyal to Mitt Romney, have parroted non-stop for the past four years...

(Excerpt) Read more at thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2012; chosenloser; hatinpalin; mccain; obama; palin; pds; rinoromney; rinos; romney; romney4dnc; romney4obama; romney4obamacare; romney4soros; romneycare4all; romneytheloser; sarahpalin; steveschmidt; waronsarah
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Were they able to destroy her? Time will tell.
1 posted on 12/29/2012 3:45:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New party or CWII.

It’s that simple. Blood simple.


2 posted on 12/29/2012 3:59:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Rasmussen Polling
Friday, November 07, 2008

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency, even as news reports surface that some McCain staffers think she was a liability.
Only 20% of GOP voters say Palin hurt the party’s ticket, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Six percent (6%) say she had no impact, and five percent (5%) are undecided.
Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.
When asked to choose among some of the GOP’s top names for their choice for the party’s 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year — Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%.
Three other sitting governors – Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota – all pull low single-digit support.
These findings echo a survey earlier this week which found that Republicans were happier with their vice presidential candidate than with their presidential nominee. Seventy-one percent (71%) said McCain made the right choice by picking Palin as his running mate, while only 65% said the party picked the right nominee for president.”


3 posted on 12/29/2012 3:59:36 AM PST by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Spot on. This is why I’m done with the Republican Party.


4 posted on 12/29/2012 4:03:06 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I could have enthusiastically supported Palin. I am disappointed in her in one respect. She waited until the very last minute to announce that she was not running for President. She had a considerable following and her delay in announcing her decision made it hard to solidify backing around a candidate that could defeat Romney in the primaries.
5 posted on 12/29/2012 4:06:50 AM PST by wintertime
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Were they able to destroy her? Time will tell.

Palin is alive and well, the question for the Romney people is, will we go "negative" on Romney?

Personally I would prefer to strengthen and reinforce Palin's influence, and weaken Romney's.

6 posted on 12/29/2012 4:07:15 AM PST by ansel12
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To: fatnotlazy

Me too...no more GOP...they are part of the kubuki theater the politicians and the media run every two years. We have a one party system with two wings...I know this is not new criticism...but never has it been more obvious.

I blame some people for Romney’s nomination...Karl Rove, The National Review, The Weekly Standard...Ann Courlter...the list goes on.

Romney is and always has been just another liberal. But for his Republican birth, he would have become a Democrat. How different is he...from say...John Kerry? Not much.

How did the GOP nominate a Massachusetts liberals to run against a Marxist? They needed to find someone with a clear difference...instead, as Barry Goldwater would say...we got an echo.

Enough.


7 posted on 12/29/2012 4:20:52 AM PST by kjo (+)
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To: kjo; fatnotlazy

They’re like that team that always plays the Harlem Globetrotters.


8 posted on 12/29/2012 4:26:03 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

As long as PhonyCon Liberals keep pushing Amnesty Liberals like Marco “La Raza” Rubio, and keep pushing the Hispanic Voter Myth, candidates like Palin and others will keep getting the shaft. The GOP cannot win national and key statewide elections by abandoning the Real Conservative Base


9 posted on 12/29/2012 4:29:24 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Has anybody noticed that Palin began a fashion crazy for women? Women wearing boots are everywhere.
10 posted on 12/29/2012 4:47:59 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Vision

I thought Nancy Sinatra did that, back in the 60’s?


11 posted on 12/29/2012 4:51:40 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: fatnotlazy
...This is why I’m done with the Republican Party.

Me too. I've been away from home and i am looking forward to a call from the GOP fund-raising people. I have some choice words as to what they can do with their telephone.

12 posted on 12/29/2012 4:54:03 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: fatnotlazy

Both my wife and I changed our affiliation to “Not Affiliated”. We have joined that great sea of “independent” voters. Will the pollsters beat a path to our phone and door next election. Time will tell. All Republican mail will be circularly filed.


13 posted on 12/29/2012 4:59:13 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In 2008, Romney’s surrogates destroyed Gov. Palin
for Obama and Soros.

In 2012, Romney and his Mormon company and team destroyed
every conservative left for Obama and Soros.

Soros ishas been Romney’s partner from the beginning
in JET BLUE and in this.

The GOP is composed of idiots who wanted to lose to the DNC.


14 posted on 12/29/2012 5:05:32 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a very plausible point of view.


15 posted on 12/29/2012 5:06:59 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Hardraade

Bump


16 posted on 12/29/2012 5:07:17 AM PST by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
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To: wintertime

Is that the whine now? There was never any indication she would run. You had over a year to make your decision. That you waited for Palin is your own fault, and you should own up to that.


17 posted on 12/29/2012 5:08:02 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (q\\)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney screwed us, the donors, the nation, all of us.

I’m livid.

FUMR!!!


18 posted on 12/29/2012 5:08:50 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FLASHBACK:
Romney Ramps up Team Romney's TYPICAL Dirty Tricks in 2008:

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."


"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

19 posted on 12/29/2012 5:11:12 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I didn't need to make a decision. Our state had no influence over the Republican primary process.

It is merely my observation from afar. That Palin took so long to announce that she was not going to run meant that her many supporters ( and she knew of their existence) did not organize around another candidate.

It's not a whine. It's an observation.

20 posted on 12/29/2012 5:19:04 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Good point about Palin waiting too long to announce she was not running.

Palin — the mega talented heart-breaker that she is — made two giant mistakes on the national stage. She failed to take five minutes to prepare for the Katie Cupcakes interview and failed to complete her term as governor. Those mistakes killed her. She energized the crowds and the McCain campaign — and then squandered it all away. Such a shame.


21 posted on 12/29/2012 5:26:45 AM PST by heye2monn (A)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All I know for sure is…

And so concludes the author having treated us to a catalog of assertions, virtually all of which having gone unsupported.

He tells us:

he [Romney] ran a pathetic campaign,

and totally alienated the base of the party.

he and his supporters were openly hostile to both the Tea Party and Sarah Palin.

Romney allowed his people to spend four years trashing Governor Palin and the Tea Party.

This cost Romney the election. That and his incoherent campaign

The amount of work that must be done to undo the treachery from Team Romney is massive.

These people are more worried about their own power than the nation as a whole.

They aren’t about to relinquish that power to an outsider

even though that’s exactly what must be done.

It’s not just Romney who is the problem, it’s the entire Republican Party.

I surrender my conservative bona fides no one but I will not permit myself to be stampeded into a series of assumptions and conclusions which are nothing more than the unsupported and mutually inconsistent vituperations of a frustrated Palin supporter. I have long believed that Palin was an authentic conservative but she was not in the race. The author would have you believe that she did not get into the race because of Mitt Romney and his calumnies and not because of her own personal pecuniary interests, or her personal family concerns, or her own missteps. Whatever her reasons for not entering the race, we remain unenlightened by the author, at least if one depends on proof. In her absence, I was among the first on these threads to support Newt Gingrich. At the end of the primary process I did what every other good conservatives did and should have done, I supported Mitt Romney.

Now I support a searching investigation into what went wrong and how to fix it. I have campaigned from the very night of the election when it became obvious that we had lost that we must not draw conclusions until we understand what happened and we cannot understand what happened until we analyze the data. Once again, I turn to Newt Gingrich who has outlined a penetrating and intelligent analysis of how that indispensable job should be undertaken.

Of all the ways a job could be undertaken there is one sure way to get it wrong and that is to prejudge.

It should not be undertaken with feel good diatribes like this. All this does is grant us conservatives a temporary sugar high. It does not enlighten us one damn bit. This is temptation as dangerous as it is beguiling.


22 posted on 12/29/2012 5:31:05 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Vision

Mrs. 2ndDivisionVet manages an optical store. She still gets requests for “Sarah Palin style glasses” all the time, and not just from “Tea Party” females but from libs, too.


23 posted on 12/29/2012 5:31:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Hardraade
Scary.

New party or CWII

Or...both?

24 posted on 12/29/2012 5:32:41 AM PST by stormhill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks 2Div for this anaylsis.It was after Sarah was chosen that things picked up, considerably. Massive crowds started showing up, volunteers showed up to man local GOP offices, and money came pouring in. McCain’s choice of Governor Palin was brilliant. ..People need to be stirred up for a cadidate- McCain was bland, Romney was too- Palin gave hope of real change not just posturing like GHWB who betrayed (many times) the trust conservaties had in him.... people will come out for a real conserative ..
25 posted on 12/29/2012 5:34:25 AM PST by virgil283 ( "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy)
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To: nathanbedford

I support a searching investigation into what went wrong and how to fix it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Massive voter fraud and possible tampering of electronic voting machines must be part of this investigation and **fixed**. If not, no Republican will ever again hold national office.


26 posted on 12/29/2012 5:36:41 AM PST by wintertime
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To: heye2monn

BINGO!!!


27 posted on 12/29/2012 5:38:57 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah needs to run in 2016. We desperately need a true conservative as the front-runner, and Sarah fits that bill. She has enormous name recognition, and she makes liberal heads explode.

Sarah, please run in 2016. The country needs you. Desperately.


28 posted on 12/29/2012 5:42:38 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They knew that if Sarah Palin ran, Mitt had no chance whatsoever.

Huh? How would anyone know this? Maybe yes, maybe no. Who knows and the author is long on generalities and short on specifics.

Palin is still a young woman and the field is wide open, so doors are not shut on her any more than anyone else.

29 posted on 12/29/2012 5:43:19 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ansel12

Hey, if Palin can defeat the next RAT (if there is one), I’m in. All I care about is defeating the RAT.


30 posted on 12/29/2012 5:44:52 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ansel12

Romney is politically dead—he’s no threat to anyone.


31 posted on 12/29/2012 5:46:05 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ought-six

If you can supply solid evidence she is the one most likely to defeat the RAT, I’m in but I want more than gut feelings, I have them, too but they’re not worth much. I want to win.


32 posted on 12/29/2012 5:52:28 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to stop worrying about the last election, or the next one. We need to worry about whether or not we will even still have a country.


33 posted on 12/29/2012 5:55:25 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Solid evidence? Tell me one other conservative with the name recognition she has that will stir up conservatives to a fever pitch.

I like Rand Paul, as well. But he has nowhere the name recognition Sarah has, and I am not sure he can gain that within the next 3 1/2 years.

But, the RNC will run Rubio in 2016, and he will lose to Andrew Cuomo.


34 posted on 12/29/2012 5:59:20 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Only if you wanted to be...

you were warned...

for years...


35 posted on 12/29/2012 6:02:49 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am staying in the GOP because I feel I can do more damage to the status quo in the primaries.


36 posted on 12/29/2012 6:07:37 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: heye2monn

Ditto Bingo, heye2monn.


37 posted on 12/29/2012 6:19:41 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s not just Mitt, or his sycophants, though, it’s the entire Republican Establishment™. These people are more worried about their own power than the nation as a whole. They aren’t about to relinquish that power to an outsider, even though that’s exactly what must be done. These are the same sort who fought Ronald Reagan tooth and nail. The sort who attacked him and spread lies about him. It’s not just Romney who is the problem, it’s the entire Republican Party.

I don't think they'll win another election (presidential). The time is ripe for a 3rd party ... conservative, principled, who PUT THE COUNTRY FIRST. I'm just flippin' done with these guys .... either voting 3rd party or not at all because I don't think they'll be able to put up any candidates that I feel good about. They've well and truly exhausted/lost their "hold your nose and vote" base.

38 posted on 12/29/2012 6:22:52 AM PST by MissMagnolia (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

39 posted on 12/29/2012 6:24:18 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: wintertime

No “possible” tampering of voting machines. There was tampering. At our machine, a Romney vote was transferred to an Obama vote. My wife had to change it three times and complained to the person in charge. It finally went through. Also there were districts that were 100% Obama. That’s statistically impossible. For a whole district to vote 100%! There will be a 2% that accidentally hit the wrong button. There is NO doubt in my mind it was tampered.


40 posted on 12/29/2012 6:33:09 AM PST by BipolarBob (White , bitter, clinging to my Bible and AR-15.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

T.E.A. Party:

Fiscal responsibility.
Constitutionally limited government.
Free market economics.


41 posted on 12/29/2012 6:35:59 AM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2682830/posts?page=35#35

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2839359/posts?page=2#2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2844193/posts?page=22#22


42 posted on 12/29/2012 6:37:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Bigtigermike; Sarah Barracuda; sarah fan UK; Al B.; Diogenesis
Flashback to how we got to where we are today...

Evidently, knowing McCain was going to lose, the decision was made to start working towards 2012, before the 2008 election was over.

These Romney sycophants pushed every bogus story that came out about Governor Palin, and made up a few themselves.

We know why Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace spread such malicious lies about the Governor, they were trying to save their own worthless reputations. What the Romney people did was just as despicable. They were hoping to harm Governor Palin’s reputation to the point she wouldn’t be a viable candidate in the future. All to pave the way for Mitt.

43 posted on 12/29/2012 6:43:34 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm not afraid, but I am nervous about our country's future. I believe that another liberal limp wrist would be less harmful to America in 2016 than a RINO would be, because a RINO who allowed the evil from these terrible eight years to stand would set a precedent. Until such time as constitutional government is restored, I can no longer vote for the lesser of two evils. I will only vote for genuine conservatives who support the Constitution of the United States (the real one, not the "living" one), who own and use guns, and who will aggressively cut spending instead of symbolically cutting the projected rate of spending growth.

This year, I knew my vote didn't matter - the communist had a lock on my state - but I didn't vote for Romney. And 2016? Again, I will not vote for Christie, or any other big government RINO, nor will I work for them. I didn't believe Romney would repeal ObamaCare, and I don't believe Christie would either.

44 posted on 12/29/2012 6:43:34 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All I know for sure is Governor Sarah Palin was dragged through the mud for a candidate that didn’t even want the job.

The money line...

45 posted on 12/29/2012 6:45:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: BipolarBob

It was so bad and they really didn’t bother to hide the fraud. Pretty much in our face, they sent us a stern message saying, it will be what we want it to be, so don’t bother voting in the future.


46 posted on 12/29/2012 6:48:08 AM PST by Toespi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GOP-PALIN=SQUISH


47 posted on 12/29/2012 6:49:59 AM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: heye2monn

Resigning as governor was not a mistake...she had no choice with Pete Rouse’s Alaska wrecking crew effectively bankrupting her and her family, as well as her staffers. It was a brilliant move, but went for naught when she decided to not run for the Presidency (for whatever reason).


48 posted on 12/29/2012 6:51:45 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

The Romneybots I can’t trust. They were for him from the beginning, They were here on Free Republic and they were everywhere. That was no accident

The ABOs Were dealing with Candidate after candidate Out of the race. There was no viable third party alternative. In the end they supported Romney... Actually they supported not Obama.

I am convinced that Romney’s plan was to destroy any conservative candidate.


49 posted on 12/29/2012 6:52:47 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Those who worked so hard to destroy Palin are also the ones who are willing to lose in order to destroy the Tea Party. The handwriting IS on the wall, a good portion of the GOP has become self-immolating, power hungry elitist that want the Tea Party dead.
50 posted on 12/29/2012 7:01:39 AM PST by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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