Dell and Gun Owners: It's worse than we thought!

The "HCI Online Mall" ^ | 2/28/02 | Redcloak

[wysiwyg]

Please go examine the website you posted a little closer. All of those companies also support NRCC, Christian Coalition and other conservative groups via the GroupFunds.com web site.

I don't know who set these websites up, but I sincerely doubt that Dell even knows about the HCI page.

[2Trievers]

Thanks DB, and I'll stay tuned! &;-)

[tomakaze]

RE:Could it be you're trying to associate the two?

Good eye.

As I am sure you know, there's a lot of companies who have both layed off people (due to the economy) and opened up manufacturing in China...[cropped some stuff]... Given your attitude towards Dell,

I'm not just picking on Dell.
So deindustrialization isn't something to worry about, a "yawner"? [sorry that's another thread but it's related]

you couldn't possibly drive an AMERICAN (Ford or GM) car could you? They manufacture in China and have layed off people.

Transferring our manufacturing base to a country we're going to be at war with in a few years is just plain retarded, and self destructive. Who benefits?
And, for the record....'84 chevy pickup, no smog control crap.
I'm also a rapid, unapologetic, fire breathing, capitalist, unlike the majority of our CEO's in corporate america who see themselves as agents of "social change" or are just flat out crooks. Capitalism is the most moral system of resource distribution and colection ever devised. It's a shame Corps don't practice it.

Paying a kid in india 50 cents a day to sew basketballs is not exploitation, moving plants to a totalitarian country that supplies cheap labor by rounding up dissedents, putting them in prison and "hiring" them out, is. Not only exploitive but damned evil.

The supporting gun crontrol thing is just the crowning turd in the waterpipe.

[tomakaze]

[correcting myself here]
REThe supporting gun crontrol thing is just the crowning turd in the waterpipe
Assuming that "HCI mall" thing is known about by management (given what others have pointed out about it.)

[Hoosier Patriot]

Be sure to see the post on what Michael Dell had to say about all this.

I read what he had to say, seemed to me he used a lot of words to really say nothing. Someone on that thread, I forget who, said something to the effect that it reads like something pulled from the nether regions of his hindquarters. I couldn't have said it better myself.

[pt17]

I appreciated both your reply and your stance but please think carefully about the impact of American manufacturing in China for a moment. After talking with some (ordinary) Chinese nationals, you might find it a mistake to classify all Chinese manfacturing workers as "slave laborers." Can you think of a better way to reach inside and influence a totalitarian regime while bringing money and profits out? Have you considered how manufacturing some parts offshore at lower costs can improve product sales to the point that onshore jobs are increased over what they would have been otherwise?

[Tijeras_Slim]

Bumping to know my enemy.

[lelio]

I originally thought that it was an alright apology and thought those FR posters that said "why isn't he saying that he supports the 2nd amendment" were nuts. Till I thought what any major company would of done if they tried to silence someone. They would be out trumpting "We support free speach!" Guess the 2nd amendment isn't important enough to say that you support it.

[Hoosier Patriot]

No more yard o' beef??....the horror...the horror!!!!

Ya' know, that says alot about this country doesn't it? I mean, think about it. Where else but America could the common man by a fricken yard o' beef? Oh, I'm sure there are places where Joe Average can walk into a shop and maybe buy a few inches, or maybe even something approaching a foot. But a yard o' beef? Ha! Hardly, I'm sure! Yes sir, it's good to be an American, and have the opportunity to, whenever we feel like it, buy ourselves that whole fricken yard o' beef to satisfy that distinctly American culinary craving!

God Bless America!

Vive la Yard O' Beef!

By the way, it's Hillshire Farms, not Hickory Farms

[NC_Libertarian]

I'm buying a computer in the next six months, Dell is definately off the list.

[Don Myers]

bttt

[Hoosier Patriot]

Guess the 2nd amendment isn't important enough to say that you support it.

That's what struck me about the letter. Dells response was directed at those who had raised criticism about this indident. I'll bet it's safe to say that a good 95% of those who had voiced criticism had mentioned the 2nd amendment, RKBA, or something similar. But Dells response never approached these issues. In my estimation, that's an example of 'ol Mike Dell just doin' a whitewash job.

[Jefferson Adams]

bumpage

[Khepera]

ping

[Jefferson Adams]

But Dells response never approached these issues. In my estimation, that's an example of 'ol Mike Dell just doin' a whitewash job.

Bingo.

[Jefferson Adams]

bumpage for freedom

[Jefferson Adams]

and one more bump

[AnnaZ]

pingpingping!

[Redcloak]

You know what they say about actions and words, don't you? Dell's claims in a letter are one thing, but sending money to HCI is quite another. I can't imagine how a company that gives money to Sarah Brady can still claim to respect the rights of gun owners.

[Destructor]

"Does the NRA or any pro-gun-rights group have a site like this? If not, perhaps they should."

Women Against Gun Control has a boycott list at: www.wagc.com. That is the only one that I know of in existence.