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Pearls head was severed
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Posted on 02/21/2002 3:00:34 PM PST by newsperson999

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To: Goblins
Turning the other cheek is a sign of faith! If Christianity is based on the truth that Jesus is the Son of God and will return to rule forever then how can anything spell the doom of christianity? If however you believe christianity can be destroyed then you really have no need of it, indeed you make it that it has need of you.

Turning the other cheek isn't about "faith" that things will work out in the end. It is about showing your enemies compassion and refusing to lower yourself to their level.

If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic.(Luke 6:29)

But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39)

Jesus died on a cross, why didn't He struggle and fight and resist His 'doom'?

His death was assured, although muslims don't believe that he was crucified or resurected (another difference between Chrisitanity and Islam - muslims like to proclaim that the religions are really quite similar except they deny that Jesus was man and yet God at the same time, they deny that he was killed, they deny that he rose again - take all of that away and he's just a "real nice guy"; a guy that the muslims don't seem to spend much time trying to emulate).

661 posted on 02/22/2002 11:04:35 AM PST by weegee
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To: in the Arena; Grampa Dave
This attrocity is representive of the whole of Islam.

See Pohoretz's analysis "How to Win World War IV" and find this fact:

Arab concensus!
662 posted on 02/22/2002 11:10:03 AM PST by flamefront
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To: Demidog
It just was coincidence that the kidnap victim was said to be a Jew who was anti-Islam.

You really don't want to start listing every crime by the religion of the criminal do you?

His relgion was cited as a factor in his kidnapping and execution. That makes the kidnappers' religion relevant. Or do hate crimes only occur in America?

663 posted on 02/22/2002 11:19:48 AM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Meanwhile, in a related thread, a few, but not all, Islamic leaders in mecca are saying terrorism is bad. when it gets to 98 percent I'll begin believing that Islam is finally potty trained.
664 posted on 02/22/2002 11:23:59 AM PST by js1138
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To: Texaggie79
Engineer? What's the story behind that? I don't care for the link. I saw the video of the russian soldier's decapitation with a knife, and that was the most awfull thing I've ever seen.

Did they do the same with Perl? Was a alive when they decapitated him?

665 posted on 02/22/2002 11:24:12 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: NC_Libertarian
They just chopped the engineers head off with an axe.

I don't know exactly what happened to Perl. Some reports say severed. Others say just his throat was slit.

666 posted on 02/22/2002 11:25:40 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
There's a lot of precident for them videotaping a live man being decapitated. There are a number of links to articles on different victims carried here on FR.

Just slitting his throat is unlikely but not impossible. Early reports did mention decaptiation. Some other governments have shown such videos in the past.

I'm disgusted that the press is detailing all sorts of horrendous acts committed by Andrea Yates against her children (new details every day) and yet they are being tight lipped on this murder that was directed at America (and that foreign travelling Americans could be subjected to).

667 posted on 02/22/2002 11:36:14 AM PST by weegee
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To: Demidog
Just please tell me why there has not been one muslim leader or muslim cleric unequivocally condemn the acts of terrorists which the terrorists themselves claim to perpetrate in the name of islam? Where are their peace loving faces on the nightly news? Where are the immams of mecca exorting the mass of circling idiots to be peaceful? Where are the saudi bankrollers withdrawing their funds from terrorist organizations? I could go on but I am sure even you get the idea----ISLAM IS EVIL AND MUST BE ERADICATED!
668 posted on 02/22/2002 12:16:09 PM PST by conqueror
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To: Prodigal Daughter; 2sheep
Every since he got kidnapped, my first thought was "Pearl of great price", maybe you all thought that too.

Yes, and this one:

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

669 posted on 02/22/2002 12:18:59 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Grampa Dave
I'm with you, cowards they are...
670 posted on 02/22/2002 12:20:24 PM PST by in the Arena
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To: in the Arena
These Islamic Butchers are not warriors, soldiers, or brave revoluntaries.

They are cowardly thugs!

671 posted on 02/22/2002 12:28:52 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me. Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.


Is this passage from Revelations referring to the Qur'an?

672 posted on 02/22/2002 12:41:24 PM PST by undergroundwarrior
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To: undergroundwarrior
I don't know where that quote came from?
673 posted on 02/22/2002 12:45:08 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: weegee
His relgion was cited as a factor in his kidnapping and execution. That makes the kidnappers' religion relevant. Or do hate crimes only occur in America?

Excellent point. They kill when someone doesn't have a religion that suits them but then turn around and expect us to admire their hideous barbaric religion and blood thirsty god.

674 posted on 02/22/2002 12:45:24 PM PST by FITZ
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To: weegee
You might want to visit kavkaz.org and read up - somewhere on their site is a comprehensive analysis of beheading in the islamic tradition. Something about your post here made me think you may be interested in it. I tried to find it to post the link but cannot get the site to come up today.

The part I had found was all about whether or not it was ok to put the head somewhere different than the body once you removed it. It was unreal. They spent a huge page on a detailed analysis, with lots of historical examples, about what was ok to do with the head and what was not. I'll keep trying to get it up and post it.

675 posted on 02/22/2002 1:20:01 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Texaggie79
The engineer was the Ukrainian - Victor something? His mother could not come up with ransom money to free him. That was the video in the glade, and he laid his head on the tree stump, right?
Just before he was beheaded he asked for mercy for the other prisoners who were with him. That video was shown on tv in Germany and some of the netherlands.
676 posted on 02/22/2002 1:25:28 PM PST by MarMema
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To: conqueror
Just please tell me why there has not been one muslim leader or muslim cleric unequivocally condemn the acts of terrorists which the terrorists themselves claim to perpetrate in the name of islam?

Because there have been at least 50? The fact that you are ignorant of Muslim denunciation of terrorist acts is not proof that there is no such denunciation.

677 posted on 02/22/2002 1:28:52 PM PST by Demidog
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To: weegee
His relgion was cited as a factor in his kidnapping and execution.

There's no such thing as a hate crime. Are you a liberal? Only liberals are riding on that stupid hate-crime (thought-crime) mantra. Don't tell me that conservatives have adopted yet another liberal plank.

678 posted on 02/22/2002 1:30:41 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Would you call the murder of Daniel Pearl a hate crime, and the people who committed it racists? If not, why not?
679 posted on 02/22/2002 1:32:53 PM PST by Alouette
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To: conqueror;Illbay;Howlin;JohnHuang2;Sabertooth;
Muslim Cleric denounces Osama bin Laden

Prominent Uzbek Muslim cleric denounces religious extremism

Muslims against Terrorism

Iran denounces massive attacks on U.S., expresses sympathy with victims

Just a few of the sources available of Muslims denouncing the terrorist acts.

680 posted on 02/22/2002 1:51:15 PM PST by Demidog
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