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Militant Group that kidnapped report may have SC camp
The State ^ | 2/3/02

Posted on 02/03/2002 6:39:58 AM PST by PJeffQ

Militant group might have S.C. camp

The chief suspect in U.S. journalist Daniel Pearl's abduction heads a militant Islamic group that might have training compounds in South Carolina and other states, said an official in Pakistan's Interior Ministry who spoke on condition of anonymity.

He might be extradited to the United States within 48 hours, the official said.

That suspect is Sheik Mubarik Ali Gilani, the man Pearl reportedly hoped to meet when he disappeared Jan. 23 in Karachi.

Gilani is a militant Islamic cleric who police say has ties to both Osama bin Laden and so-called shoe bomber Richard Reid, the British national who allegedly tried to blow up an American Airlines flight with explosives hidden in his sneakers.

Police say Gilani, who heads an extremist group that allegedly has thousands of followers in the United States, operates a religious school in the Pakistan city of Lahore. Until recently, they say, he also ran military training sites south of Lahore to prepare Islamic radicals for holy war in Kashmir, Chechnya, Afghanistan and the United States.

The plump 60-year-old militant cleric, who has made frequent trips to the United States, was arrested Thursday in Rawalpindi, a city that borders on Islamabad.

Before being flown to Karachi for further questioning, he told police he financed many of his operations in Pakistan with money sent by his followers in the United States, one arresting officer said.

The officer, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Gilani warned that hundreds of his followers in the United States would react violently to his arrest.

A Pakistan government official said U.S. documents presented in support of extradition said the militant Islamic group Gilani founded, Tanzeem ul Fuqra, operates the Quranic Open University in Los Angeles, which has branches in New York City and Philadelphia.

The documents cited reports claiming that Tanzeem ul Fuqra has training compounds in New York, Michigan, South Carolina, California and perhaps other states.

South Carolina's homeland- security director, Steve Siegfried, said Saturday night that he has no knowledge of any such terrorist training camp in South Carolina.

No U.S. officials could be reached in Pakistan for comment late Saturday on the legal foundation they have laid for Gilani's extradition, or what charges he could face in the United States.

But the Interior Ministry official said Pakistan is ready to hand Gilani over to the United States not because of his alleged role in Pearl's kidnapping but because of the numerous crimes in the United States that have been linked to Tanzeem ul Fuqra since the mid-1980s.

In 1984, according to documents presented to Pakistan, Tanzeem ul Fuqra was linked to the firebombing of a Hare Krishna temple in Denver.

In the early 1990s, the documents said, several of the group's members were arrested after police found 30-40 pounds of explosives, handguns, bomb-making instructions and manuals on such topics as flying airplanes and reading blueprints in a storage locker in Colorado Springs.

More recently, a Tanzeem ul Fuqra member was arrested for the murder last August of a Fresno County deputy sheriff in California, according to the extradition documents.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islamicviolence; jihadinamerica
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To: Lizzy W
Hey Lizzy! I don't think that it's the Airforce Base, but the new brig at SouthDiv or the one on the old navy base. I hope they DON'T bring any of them here, although something is going on.
81 posted on 02/03/2002 10:06:05 AM PST by dixie sass
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To: rebelyell
Rebelyell, amen to that!!!!
82 posted on 02/03/2002 10:07:06 AM PST by dixie sass
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To: PJeffQ
"The officer, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Gilani warned that hundreds of his followers in the United States would react violently to his arrest."

. . .good, let them come out protesting. . .show themselves; and then we should arrest them and ship them back to wherever. . .

83 posted on 02/03/2002 10:08:00 AM PST by cricket
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To: crystalk
The map is from the NYPOst , last week I think,
so am sure it represents old news!

I follow the articles posted on the lists like Jihad in America ,
lots of people have raised the same comments you have.

The Fresno village started the list and they are not on the map!!!

84 posted on 02/03/2002 10:08:28 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: PJeffQ
We begin to get a real look at the lower regions of the iceberg.

If they extradite this pig I will be surprised. Very. This will be extremely telling as to the Paki's true willingness to actually help us combat terrorism.

If by some fluke we actually do get him here ....... then the fun really begins. The islamonazis will be flushed out of the woodwork around here and a lot of Americans will die in the battles on our own soil that ensue.

It must be however.

This IS a war in which ordinary citizens are combatants and targets.

85 posted on 02/03/2002 10:13:12 AM PST by mercy
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To: Nix 2
Prince Frederick,MD.Home of the Southern Maryland Islamic Center.Islamic Fundamentalism in Calvert county.I used to live in Chesapeake Beach,about 10 miles from there.I wonder if they have been examined by the Feds?
86 posted on 02/03/2002 10:13:28 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Travis McGee
dang, this is scary
87 posted on 02/03/2002 10:16:12 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: rebelyell
I am sure a terrorist camp could find a way to hide itself no matter what state it was in.
88 posted on 02/03/2002 10:16:59 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: leadhead
There won't be anybody there. The camps have been abandoned and the terrs have split into small unconnected cells. I'm sure it was all planned long ago.

How many Americans are slated to die violent unnecessary deaths because we refuse to round up illegals and greencard holding traitors?

89 posted on 02/03/2002 10:18:28 AM PST by mercy
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To: Shooter 2.5
Bookmarked!
90 posted on 02/03/2002 10:32:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: hoosierham
You're right. That's a bad idea, come to think of it.
91 posted on 02/03/2002 10:40:09 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Shooter 2.5
See post #22

Click here for a wake up call.

This needs to be said again.

Loud and clear

http://www.azzam.sh/

92 posted on 02/03/2002 11:14:07 AM PST by I'mAllRightJack
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To: Catspaw; grampa dave
I posted an article from the NY Post on an al-Fuqra colony in Upstate New York yesterday. While I was checking to see if it had already been posted, I came across an earlier thread (possibly one of your contributions!) where a poster mentioned that Louis Farrakhan is suspected (or perhaps even known) to be a member of al Fuqra. Of course, I couldn't find the post again later to check it, and I'm still trying to track it down. Do any of you fine folks know anything about Farrakhan's possible membership in this group?
93 posted on 02/03/2002 11:34:51 AM PST by livius
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To: Don Joe
Are we now going to call him a terrorist as well?
Um, the short answer to that droning question is, "yes, of course."

Terror seems to be an old tradition. In fairness, not only in Islamic nations. Fortunately now, in the 21st century it has been rejected by the civilized nations of the world.

94 posted on 02/03/2002 11:44:03 AM PST by SJackson
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To: livius
National Review published this a few days ago, it might be what you saw. A Junior al Qaeda . . . . . . Right here at home: Meet al Fuqra.

They indicate It is not aligned with a more prominent and homegrown black Muslim group, the Nation of Islam, and in fact it has serious theological differences with Louis Farrakhan's flock. Of course, I have serious theological differences with Al Fuqra, and they didn't mention me.

95 posted on 02/03/2002 11:49:27 AM PST by SJackson
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To: PJeffQ
All I want to know ,"Is What Would Jesus Do?"
96 posted on 02/03/2002 11:54:46 AM PST by Church Lady
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To: PJeffQ
bttt
97 posted on 02/03/2002 12:19:40 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"South Carolina's homeland- security director, Steve Siegfried, said Saturday night that he has no knowledge of any such terrorist training camp in South Carolina."

Steve doesn't get out much.



"Furthermore, a variety of extremist groups are known to operate within South Carolina."
South Carolina Emergency Preparedness Division

FBI Learns Terrorist Info In SC

FBI Learns Terrorist Info In SC

News Channel 7
Jan 4, 2002

A federal prosecutor says state and federal authorities gained useful information by interrogating South Carolina residents from countries where terrorists operate. First assistant U.S. Attorney Scott Schools would not provide more details about the men's identities or what authorities learned.

After the September 11th attacks, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft targeted more than five-thousand men nationwide for questioning. In November, federal officials asked the South Carolina anti-terrorism task force to interview 25 men in the state. Schools says a few of the men could not be found and some had moved. He would say not how many men were questioned.

The men in South Carolina are not considered suspects. Schools says all the men interviewed cooperated with authorities.

British Muslims Seek Terror Training In U.S.

Destroying domestic terror camps Lawmaker calls for end to training networks in U.S.

Now, think about the comments in that link right above. It's "now" time to think about stopping these domestic terror training camps in the U.S. LOL! You would think they might have gotten serious and stopped them before! If you think that's bad, the FBI cannot even prove that a terrorist conspiracy took place on American soil on September 11.

98 posted on 02/03/2002 12:25:43 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Church Lady
All I want to know ,"Is What Would Jesus Do?"

Good .Now I have a translation.

99 posted on 02/03/2002 12:27:08 PM PST by Mahonri Moriancumer
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To: Travis McGee
I wish there was a group title which would refer certain threads to the FBI, Ridge, and the Whitehouse "war room".

No matter how much we love FR, we flatter ourselves if we think this would do anything but clog up the works. Bad idea.

-ccm

100 posted on 02/03/2002 1:18:24 PM PST by ccmay
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