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Someone has finally talked! Reed Irvine on Navy witness who saw Flight 800 downed by missile
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, January 31, 2002 | Reed Irvine

Posted on 01/31/2002 12:01:36 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Those who accept the government's claim that the crash of TWA Flight 800 was caused by a fuel-tank explosion dismiss the evidence that the plane was shot down accidentally by missiles launched in a Navy exercise off the Long Island coast. They say that such an accident could not have been covered up because a lot of Navy personnel would have known about it, and some of them would have talked.

One of them has finally done so. He recently said in an interview that I recorded that he was on the deck of a Navy submarine very close to the crash site and saw TWA 800 shot down.

He was brought to my attention by an acquaintance of his who told me that this retired Navy petty officer had said he was "underneath TWA 800 when he saw a missile hit it and the 747 explode overhead." He had told this acquaintance that he had given a statement to the FBI when they returned to their port, and that the FBI had checked all their torpedo tubes and all their missile silos to make sure they had all the missiles on board that they had when they left port. Asked if there were other military vessels in the area, he had said, "Yes, several."

When Pierre Salinger, at a press conference in March 1997, declared that TWA Flight 800 had been shot down accidentally by a U.S. Navy missile, this former presidential press secretary, U.S. Senator and ABC News correspondent, was mercilessly attacked by his former colleagues. They accused him of peddling unsubstantiated Internet gossip. Salinger said that his information had been confirmed by a source who learned of the Navy's involvement from a friend who had a son in the Navy. The son was said to have personal knowledge that a Navy missile had downed the plane, but his father did not want to be identified, fearing his son would suffer retaliation for disclosing information the Navy was hiding.

There are hundreds of Navy and Coast Guard personnel, as well as some FBI, CIA, FAA, NTSB and former White House employees who know that the real cause of the crash of TWA 800 was papered over with a tissue of lies. Two of them, James Kallstrom and George Stephanopoulos, have made statements that indicate an official cover-up. Stephanopoulos, a Clinton adviser who is now an ABC News correspondent, mentioned on the air a secret meeting in the White House situation room "in the aftermath of the TWA 800 bombing." Kallstrom, who headed the FBI's TWA 800 investigation, told me – and I have this on tape – that three radar targets close to the crash site were Navy vessels on a classified maneuver. We know they were submarines because the radar tracks disappeared when TWA 800 crashed.

Our newly found talker was on one of those submarines. The Navy claims that it was at least 80 miles from the crash site, but he says it was very close, and that is confirmed by the radar tracks. In our taped interview, he was more guarded than he had been with his acquaintance. He said he didn't want to do anything that might "mess up" his retirement.

He said he saw "something come up." "I don't know what in the hell it was," he said, "but that's what it looked ..." Not completing what he started to say, he said, "You know, something went up." He estimated that it went up about a mile from his location, which was only a few miles from the shore. He said there were a couple of other subs nearby. When told that the radar tracks of all three disappeared because they submerged when the plane went down, he said, "Yeah, that's what we did."

He acknowledged that a number of Navy vessels were heading for W-105, a large area of the ocean south of Long Island that is used for naval maneuvers. He said that nothing they did off Long Island was classified, but he was not comfortable in discussing it.

When I called him a few days later, he was scared to death. He feared the Navy would withdraw his pension if I reported what he had said. It was not possible to convince him that the Navy couldn't do that. Not wanting to worsen his anxiety, his name and other details are being withheld as we try to get his and other interview reports that the FBI has withheld.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheorists; tinfoilhats; twa800; twa800list; twaflight800
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1 posted on 01/31/2002 12:01:36 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: hchutch;dawn53;OKCSubmariner;Wallaby;1John;Trident/Delta;mjaneangels@aol.com;Aeronaut...
Heads up
2 posted on 01/31/2002 12:03:13 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: *TWA800_list
bump
3 posted on 01/31/2002 12:06:49 AM PST by One More Time
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To: JohnHuang2
always interesting, the traditional media will pick this up when its warm at the south pole.
4 posted on 01/31/2002 12:13:38 AM PST by GeronL
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To: JohnHuang2
Did this plane have as passengers the 2 Arkansas state troopers that were to testify against Clinton?
5 posted on 01/31/2002 12:15:08 AM PST by 1Peter2:16
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To: GeronL
Or when pigs fly....on second thought, not even then.
6 posted on 01/31/2002 12:22:24 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: OKCSubmariner
BTTT
7 posted on 01/31/2002 12:23:01 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: 1Peter2:16
There was, I believe, a thread about that a while back....wish I knew the title so I could do a search.
8 posted on 01/31/2002 12:23:21 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Believe me, the government lies. If you refuse to believe this you are in denial or just plain stupid.
9 posted on 01/31/2002 12:38:22 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: OKCSubmariner
WE SAW TWA FLIGHT 800 SHOT DOWN BY MISSILES!

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10 posted on 01/31/2002 12:48:52 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5
BTTT
11 posted on 01/31/2002 2:47:01 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Further Bumped.
12 posted on 01/31/2002 2:59:31 AM PST by leadpenny
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13 posted on 01/31/2002 3:09:39 AM PST by backhoe
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To: JohnHuang2
I heard ( & later related to Cmdr Donaldson ) a live interview of small marina operator who had rented boat slip to several Middle Eastern fellows-who left on thier cabin cruiser on the eve of the 'event' & did not return. Cmdr Donaldson was vewry intirgued by the veracity of the interview & said it confirmed other info. I heard soo many live interviews that day ( I was in the city ) from military & civiialn types, who were obviously sincere, about what they saw, I was certain something was up. Reading the work of Cmdr Donaldson should open many minds.
14 posted on 01/31/2002 3:28:56 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: JohnHuang2
in re:GWB-'Trust But Verify'! He makes us feel good-except when he talks of & acts on gov expansion. That part is really quite awful.
15 posted on 01/31/2002 3:32:10 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: JohnHuang2
Yawn! - WorldNutdaily quotes another anonymous conspiracy gomer. Let's not forget that these were the same folks who thought the world would end because of Y2K...
17 posted on 01/31/2002 4:03:10 AM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: JohnHuang2
I don't see this as adding anything to what has already been asserted by Michael Rivero and others who believe in the missile theory. WND has always been pro-conspiracy and I'm not surprised to see this purported "revelation" from Mr. Irvine. However, quoting anonymous retired Navy petty officers will not advance the cause of proving it was anything other than a CWT explosion.
18 posted on 01/31/2002 4:05:56 AM PST by a6intruder
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To: JohnHuang2
This is typical WND crap. Hype something with a misleading title and then fill two pages with old news. From the title one would assume someone in the Navy was claiming they saw or participated in the Navy firing a missile that downed TWA 800. Then you read the article and discover that it's some retired Petty Officer who claims he was standing on the deck of a submarine near the spot where TWA 800 went down and witnessed "a missile hit it and the 747 explode overhead". No evidence of Navy participation and no new information. Maybe I missed it. Can someone show me how this implicates the Navy.
19 posted on 01/31/2002 4:17:51 AM PST by Rokke
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To: JohnHuang2
And you think, there are still those who believe anything the government tells them.

I am to the point that if they tell me something, automatically I believe the opposite.

20 posted on 01/31/2002 4:23:07 AM PST by tberry
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