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What would Abraham Lincoln do?
self | 10/5/2001 | self

Posted on 10/05/2001 5:38:25 PM PDT by smolensk

Last time I looked there was a big memorial to President Lincoln in DC.

Wasn't he the president who took it upon himself to suspend the writ of habeas corpus for national security sake (even though the constitution says only Congress can do this)? Wasn't he the president who suspended 1st Amendment rights and imprisoned over 30,000 people without being charged (the grandson of Francis Scott Keyes being one in particular who spent the entire Civil War in prison)? Wasn't he the head of the administration which banished a duly elected US Congressman from Ohio (Clement Vanlandigham) for speaking out about the hypocrisy of the war against the South?

If all this is true (which it is), and people defend Lincoln all the time as the greatest there ever was, then I say that during this time of national crisis (much worse than the South simply wanting to leave the Union) that we REVOKE all visas (of any type) to people of middle-eastern descent and send them HOME!

This time I'm 100% on Abe's side and I think that if he were president they'd already be on a plane.

Either we do this for all of our sakes or then we should tear down the Lincoln memorial because our 'tolerance' today makes it a joke.


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1 posted on 10/05/2001 5:38:25 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: smolensk
Still upset that the South lost, huh?
2 posted on 10/05/2001 5:40:54 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: smolensk
Lincoln would round up the patriots and have them shot.
3 posted on 10/05/2001 5:42:15 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: StoneColdGOP
Still upset that the South lost, huh?

I don't think you even read my entire article based on this response.

4 posted on 10/05/2001 5:43:58 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: smolensk
Some people say he was gay, too.
5 posted on 10/05/2001 5:46:13 PM PDT by Kare Bully
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To: smolensk
then we should tear down the Lincoln memorial

I'm in favor of that!
Aw, Shucks!

6 posted on 10/05/2001 5:49:33 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: smolensk
"REVOKE all visas (of any type) to people of middle-eastern descent and send them HOME!"

Allow me to be the first to agree with you 100%!

Tough noogies if anyones "Feelings" are hurt...

7 posted on 10/05/2001 5:52:03 PM PDT by NewLand
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To: NewLand
I'll second that emotion :-).
8 posted on 10/05/2001 6:02:46 PM PDT by Tweedle_Dumb&Dee
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To: NewLand
People like you probably wouldn't even stop there. You'd take away the citizenship of 2nd and 3rd generation Americans of the Muslim faith and send them off to some small island while you're at it.
9 posted on 10/05/2001 6:06:57 PM PDT by dheretic
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To: smolensk
Lincoln also suffered from Marfan Syndrome, symptoms of which include a thin, elongated head, stooped shoulders, a "sunken breast" and "spider-like" legs, unusual height, a high, crowded palate, scoliosis, pigeon chest, myopia, retinal detachment, striae and valvular disorders. No wonder there's talk of discontinuing the penny.
10 posted on 10/05/2001 6:08:19 PM PDT by Kare Bully
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People like you probably wouldn't even stop there. You'd take away the citizenship of 2nd and 3rd generation Americans of the Muslim faith and send them off to some small island while you're at it.

Good idea! I should have thought of that first!

11 posted on 10/05/2001 6:10:04 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: smolensk
You hit that nail on the head--I like your answer.
13 posted on 10/05/2001 6:14:41 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: dheretic
"People like you probably wouldn't even stop there. You'd take away the citizenship of 2nd and 3rd generation Americans of the Muslim faith and send them off to some small island while you're at it."

Great idea! Wish I thought of it...LOL!

14 posted on 10/05/2001 6:16:52 PM PDT by NewLand
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To: dheretic
"People like you probably wouldn't even stop there. You'd take away the citizenship of 2nd and 3rd generation Americans of the Muslim faith and send them off to some small island while you're at it. "

Why shouldn't the US have the right to expel non-citizens from the country. The US has been attacked. Do you disagree that expelling Arab non-citizen Muslims would decrease the risk of future terrorist attacks inside the US?

I am genuinely curious.

15 posted on 10/05/2001 6:39:27 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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16 posted on 10/05/2001 7:55:54 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: Kare Bully
Some people say he was gay, too.

Its just nothing more then bad feelings from citizens of our southern states that can not get over the fact that we beat them.
17 posted on 10/05/2001 8:05:56 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
It wasn't my intention to start another Civil War debate, but I have to respond to your comment with the following...

Yep, you beat us, and the end justifies the means right?

19 posted on 10/05/2001 10:18:02 PM PDT by smolensk
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I don't think we need to suspend anything to round up non-citizens and deport them.

MY POINT EXACTLY! In 1860 there was no bioterrorism, no suitcase nuclear bombs, and no one particularly wanting to go on suicide missions to kill innocent civilians. There was also no one trying to do away with the US (maybe just make it smaller in membership).

But now, it seems that we must be 'tolerant' of our foreign middle-eastern 'guests' who want to come here and take advantages of our system and then use this advantage to destroy us. All the while, many deserving foreigners with sons and daughters here can't get a visa to come visit!

I'd be willing to pay higher gas prices if sending them home caused oil prices to go up! Hell, in another decade we'll be running automobiles on hydrogen anyway!

20 posted on 10/05/2001 10:22:35 PM PDT by smolensk
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