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Paul plans D.C. detour to vote against debt increase
Washington Times ^ | 17 January 2012 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 01/17/2012 2:48:24 PM PST by JakeS

Rep. Ron Paul will drop off the campaign trail in South Carolina on Wednesday and fly back to Washington to cast a vote against raising the debt ceiling, his campaign said Tuesday. ...

Mr. Obama said late last month the federal government was once again close to breaching the legal limit on how much it can borrow, and he requested Congress raise the ceiling again. Opponents would need to pass a resolution disapproving of the increase and have it signed into law, or else override a presidential veto, to bloc the increase — which is highly unlikely.

But returning to Washington to take the vote highlights one of Mr. Paul's strengths in the race: He is one of only two current officeholders still in the race — the other is Texas Gov. Rick Perry — and the only one whose job allows him to actually go head-to-head with President Obama. ...

The vote is a no-brainer for Mr. Paul, now in his 12th term, who has made a career out of voting against spending bills and debt increases.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: debtceiling; debtlimit; paul; republican; ron; ronpaul
Newt, as a member of C0ngress voted for increases, Rick as a member of the Senate voted for increases, the only candidate who has never voted for an increase in the debt limit is Congressman Ron Paul.

Why are so many so afraid that the man who has never voted to fund abortion, never done and abortion, never voted for a debt ceiling increase, never stopped yelling about the corrupt federal reserve, has consistently fought against presidents being able to go to war without a vote from Congress, etc, being the Republican nominee?

1 posted on 01/17/2012 2:48:34 PM PST by JakeS
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To: JakeS
the only candidate who has never voted for an increase in the debt limit is Congressman Ron Paul.

Good point. Too bad he's that he's insane.

2 posted on 01/17/2012 2:54:58 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: JakeS

There is no other member of Congress who has supported and benefitted from pork spending and earmarks than L. Ron Paul.

The man is a FRAUD.

He consistently votes down these tax and spend bills, but his fingerprints are still everywhere.

Oh, BTW. IBTZ.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 2:54:58 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: JakeS

Because he sounds like he has warped perceptions of foreign policy. I’d take his domestic policy suggestions any day over the rest, and if whoever is our next president does not institute his domestic policies, we will never be able to afford any sort of effective foreign policy.

(I take a lot of heat, and get called a Paulbot for defending his economic and domstice policies on this board.)


4 posted on 01/17/2012 2:55:14 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: JakeS

This vote is largely symbolic since the GOP controlled house has already given Obama the debt ceiling increase. But it does serve to illustrate the differences between Paul and the other GOP candidates.


5 posted on 01/17/2012 2:57:26 PM PST by jpsb
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To: JakeS
Why are so many so afraid

Because his Happy Meal is short an order of fries

6 posted on 01/17/2012 3:00:12 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yeah I wasn’t even looking for him on the open secrets website but was surprised at how often he turned up while researching other stuff.


7 posted on 01/17/2012 3:00:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Daveinyork
Lawmakers Proposed $1 Trillion In New Spending Last Year

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2833967/posts

this will destroy us sooner and more thoroughly than Iran's aspirations.

8 posted on 01/17/2012 3:03:58 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: JakeS

I think most conservaties agree with those things but they don’t feel comfortable with his “Blame Amerian First” foreign policy stance.

He sees the murder of over 3,000 people on 9/11 as an act of terrorism and not an act of war. Our country was clearly attacked by radical Islamist, We can either fight or surrender, Paul chose surrender and the white flag. Most conservatives find that disgusting.


9 posted on 01/17/2012 3:04:20 PM PST by swampfox101
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To: JakeS
"Why are so many so afraid that the man who has never voted to fund abortion, . . . etc, being the Republican nominee?"

Because he is nuts. If you haven't figured that out after last nights comedic performance, then you are one seriously clueless Paulbot. "Why didn't we just capture bin Laden?" I mean REALLY? How about because he picked up an AK when the SEALS entered the room. The man's an idiot--the worst joke I have ever seen in a politician.
10 posted on 01/17/2012 3:11:07 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: cripplecreek
If RoPaul gives a damn about cutting the budget, then why this....
 
 
Paul Flies Luxe on Your Dime [ron paul is a 2-faced self-dealing racist GOOFUS]
NY Post ^ | 1/16/2012 | staff

Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:03:58 PM by Notwithstanding

Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who’s made his crusade to slash federal spending the cornerstone of his GOP presidential run, has been habitually flying first class at taxpayer expense.

Paul has jetted first class on at least 31 round-trip flights and 12 one-way flights since May 2009 to travel between Washington and his Texas district, according to an Associated Press review of congressional office expenses.

Another four round-trip tickets and two one-way tickets were eligible for upgrades to first class. The records did not reveal if the upgrade was made.

Paul’s first-class flights on Continental Airlines cost taxpayers nearly $52,000 since 2009 — or about $27,000 more than flying coach.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...

 

 
 
As I've said. The man is a FRAUD.


11 posted on 01/17/2012 3:11:44 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: jpsb
It doesn't show that he is anything other than a grand stander. "Look at me! Look at me! Aren't I wonderful? I'm running back to the House to cast another meaningless vote so everyone can see how wonderful I am."

Paul is one pathetic joke and he always has been.
12 posted on 01/17/2012 3:15:06 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Sudetenland
"It doesn't show that he is anything other than a grand stander."

Well I guess if you are Ok, with being 15.3 trillion in debt and having to borrow 43 cents of every federal dollar spent then yeah, I can see why you would not want a congressman who is against out of control spending to vote. Enjoy the debt.

13 posted on 01/17/2012 3:23:43 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ron Paul returns over $140,000 from his office budget to the U.S. Treasury
by W.E. Messamore
April 2, 2011

Last year, we took notice when Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) returned $100,000 of his Congressional office budget to the United States Treasury.

14 posted on 01/17/2012 3:28:26 PM PST by jpsb
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To: JakeS
This is the actual headline: Paul plans D.C. detour to vote against debt increase

You should change it.

15 posted on 01/17/2012 3:28:55 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: JakeS

So what. He loads up the bills with earmarks, then votes against any bill he knows will pass. The guy is a fraud.


16 posted on 01/17/2012 3:31:04 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: jpsb
Your strawman comment is as meaningless and irrelevant as [w]Ron[g] Paul's vote, Paulbot. He's doing this vote just as everything else he has done throughout his useless career in Congress, as a meaningless grandstanding play.

The clown is a complete fraud and you bots don't even realize you're being played. Down here in Texas we all know about Paul and he is a joke.
17 posted on 01/17/2012 3:31:18 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Sudetenland

funny WE here in his district IN TEXAS keep electing him to Congress. So far all you have done is stamp your feet scream, yell and insult. Like I said enjoy the 15.3 trillion in debt that only Paul and a handful of congressmen seem to be fighting against.


18 posted on 01/17/2012 3:40:28 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
Dear Paultard,

Why don't you practice what you preach and give the taxpayers back some of the loot your elected loon got for your district.

"As for earmarks, the congressman requested at least $157 million for fiscal year 2011, and another $398 million for fiscal year 2010, according to his congressional Web site. The provisions included $2.5 million for a “Historic Downtown Redevelopment Project” in Baytown, Texas; $8 million for replacing recreational fishing piers damaged during hurricanes; and $18 million for ship canal operations and maintenance.

Ron Paul on earmarks and ‘corporate welfare’ (Fact Checker biography)


19 posted on 01/17/2012 3:57:49 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: jpsb

Just proves that Gulf air strangles the capacity to think rationally.


20 posted on 01/17/2012 4:04:58 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: darkwing104

Texas citizens received approximately $0.94 in the way of federal spending. This ranks the state 35th nationally and represents a slight decrease from 1995, when Texas received $0.95 per dollar of federal taxes paid (ranking them 37th nationally). Neighboring states and the amount of federal spending they received per dollar of federal taxation paid were as follows: New Mexico ($2.03), Oklahoma ($1.36), Arkansas ($1.41), and Louisiana ($1.78).


21 posted on 01/17/2012 4:08:55 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
You dodged that little fact faster than Bill Clinton dodged the draft...


22 posted on 01/17/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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23 posted on 01/17/2012 4:59:13 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: darkwing104

Well the argument that people that want less federal spending should just let the people that want more federal spending spend all the federal money is pretty lame.


24 posted on 01/17/2012 6:31:16 PM PST by jpsb
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To: JakeS

Ron Paul could have stopped the 2-month extension of the Payroll Tax “holiday”, simply by showing up and objecting.

He didn’t. But he’ll go back for a meaningless vote that won’t stop anything.


25 posted on 01/17/2012 10:49:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Ron Paul could have stopped the 2-month extension of the Payroll Tax “holiday”, simply by showing up and objecting.

He didn’t. But he’ll go back for a meaningless vote that won’t stop anything.

Why should he be the republican hammer? How many uniform republicans are supporting him? You have the speaker of the house, why didn't he stop it? How about the rest of the house leadership, why didn't they stop it, why not call them and ask them? I called Dr. Paul and I am happy with his answer.

26 posted on 01/18/2012 2:10:52 PM PST by JakeS (The Bible teaches me not to fear what man can do, but instead to fear God.)
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To: svcw
He loads up the bills with earmarks, then votes against any bill he knows will pass. The guy is a fraud.

Give me two examples.

27 posted on 01/18/2012 2:11:50 PM PST by JakeS (The Bible teaches me not to fear what man can do, but instead to fear God.)
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To: svcw
This is the actual headline: Paul plans D.C. detour to vote against debt increase You should change it.

I have written what I have written.

28 posted on 01/18/2012 2:12:46 PM PST by JakeS (The Bible teaches me not to fear what man can do, but instead to fear God.)
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To: Sudetenland
Because he is nuts. If you haven't figured that out after last nights comedic performance, then you are one seriously clueless Paulbot. "Why didn't we just capture bin Laden?" I mean REALLY? How about because he picked up an AK when the SEALS entered the room. The man's an idiot--the worst joke I have ever seen in a politician.

First, after the truth started coming out, there was no AK. Second, the only people I have ever seen who have passed medical school that are idiots are abortionist, of which Dr. Paul is not.

Third the only ones I have ever seen refer to accomplished successful people as idiots, are idiots.

And yes I do support Dr. Paul, he is the only one that seems to understand how deeply we are in debt. He seems to be the only one that understands the necessity of cutting G0vernment spending.

Are you in such a stable position that you can ignore the debt and spending?

29 posted on 01/18/2012 2:18:43 PM PST by JakeS (The Bible teaches me not to fear what man can do, but instead to fear God.)
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To: JakeS

I see that it was changed from Dr. Paul to just Paul. Thanks.


30 posted on 01/18/2012 2:27:56 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: swampfox101
I think most conservaties agree with those things but they don’t feel comfortable with his “Blame Amerian First” foreign policy stance.

He sees the murder of over 3,000 people on 9/11 as an act of terrorism and not an act of war. Our country was clearly attacked by radical Islamist, We can either fight or surrender, Paul chose surrender and the white flag. Most conservatives find that disgusting.

You have obviously not tread what he said. Call his office and ask for a transcript. I think you'll find that what he did say makes a lot of sense. We have done nothing for the people of the middle east, not that I think they would have prospered from any help we gave directly to them, since they are so filled with hate, but, our aid has gone to the dictators and the UN.

Dr. Paul and I have disagreed on this, but his good far outweighs his bad. And he has been consistent for these twenty plus years that I have followed him.

This is how I select a candidate:
He must be pro-life.
Has he been consistent in his positions?
Does he understand the economy and how it works?
Does he understand that what is destroying our country is g0vernment?

Look, for every $50,000 dollars more the G0vernemt(s) hit me, another man or woman loses his job. For every $50K I save from G0vernemnt, I hire one more man or woman. Ron Paul is the only one that gives potential employees a light at the end of the tunnel. And I will guarantee you I am not the only employer that takes that stand. We cannot print the stuff, we have to show a profit.

31 posted on 01/18/2012 2:31:37 PM PST by JakeS (The Bible teaches me not to fear what man can do, but instead to fear God.)
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To: JakeS

http://washingtonindependent.com/104609/ron-paul-one-of-only-four-house-republicans-to-request-earmarks-for-2011-budget-updated
Then voted against the bill(s).
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2009/03/delegation-watch-here-are-all-of-rep-ron-pauls-earmarks/
Then voted against the bill(s).


32 posted on 01/18/2012 2:32:09 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: All

Anyone called an air strike in on this newbie Paulitard?


33 posted on 01/18/2012 11:19:59 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But he’ll go back for a meaningless vote that won’t stop anything.

How is it meaningless? It forces Zero to go on record as vetoing it and thus accepting final responsibility for the fiscal profligacy. It's a point that can be made in a fifteen second ad.

34 posted on 01/18/2012 11:49:33 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: jpsb
Legitimate criticism of Ron Paul's (or any other candidate's) policy positions is, of course, to be expected and encouraged.

But hysterically blurting out "Paultard" every other sentence is nothing more than petty name-calling.

Such incivility can have a lingering effect. The GOP needs every vote it can get, and supporters of other Republican candidates do not help the party's chances of winning the White House when they flippantly alienate a significant portion of primary voters who would never vote for a Democrat in the general election.

Come November 2012, the GOP nominee will be needing many of those Ron Paul voters to show up at the polls.

So, go ahead, Ron Paul-haters, help 0bama out a little more in November: keep up the juvenile name-calling and insults towards Congressman Paul, and continue to denigrate his supporters as well. See how that helps the GOP come November...

35 posted on 01/18/2012 11:59:43 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: cynwoody

The House will pass the “rejection” of the debt increase. The Senate will not vote at all, the time period will expire, and Obama will have to do nothing.

Meanwhile, because we botched the argument so badly, nobody except us cares that the debt limit is being increased, so nobody will be held “to blame” for increasing the debt limit.

Which makes sense, because by and large the voters don’t seem to be holding anybody “to blame” for actually increasing the debt either.


36 posted on 01/19/2012 7:14:42 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sudetenland

Ah, so your preference is for somebody who votes FOR a debt increase? Got it.


37 posted on 01/20/2012 1:44:02 AM PST by Wyoming Cowboy
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To: Wyoming Cowboy
As is typical for Paulbots, you are erecting a strawman to attack. No surprise, integrity is not one of Paul's strong points nor one of his idolators.

No, actually my preference is for someone who is sane. My preference is for someone with a small degree of integrity, honesty, and who knows the difference between China or Iran, and the United States. Someone who doesn't see the Red Chinese and the Imams of Iran as being morally equal to Americans and the Israelis. Someone who has even a remote comprehension of the threat a nuclear armed Iran is to Israel, the US, and the world's economy.

My preference is for someone who is not a biggoted anti-semite, Nazi lover.

But Sanity is the very minimum, and Paul doesn't come close--nor do his supporting robots.
38 posted on 01/20/2012 6:53:02 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: JakeS

Whoopee. This vote is a lotta sound and fury signifying nuthin’.


39 posted on 01/20/2012 6:59:21 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Sudetenland
Not a "Paulbot", but knock yourself out. And you're just harping on foreign policy, which will mean jack shit this election to me and a whole bunch of others. In every area except that one, Paul is by far the best candidate*. And even in that area, he at least deserves to be listened to. There's a pretty warped belief seemingly permeating this site that he's somehow a Blame America First candidate, when he is in fact an America First candidate. Most Republicans used to be America First, but not anymore, it seems. Et tu, Brute?

*) With the exception of Sarah Palin of course - who I am still in some warped way hoping for. Brokered convention, anyone?
40 posted on 01/20/2012 8:56:23 AM PST by Wyoming Cowboy
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