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Posted on 10/11/2003 8:28:31 PM PDT by RaceBannon
How To Destroy the Jews
A Message For All Those Who Say Israel Has No Future
(or for all Jew-haters determined to try to use force to insure that Israel has no future)
Replacement Theology --- This view teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in the plan and purpose of God. The many promises made to Israel in the Bible (especially the kingdom promises) are fulfilled in the Christian Church, in a non-literal way. The prophecies in Scripture concerning the blessing and restoration of Israel to the Land of Promise are "spiritualized" into promises of God's blessing for the Church. The prophecies of condemnation and judgment, however, still remain for national Israel.
Amillennialism --- This view harmonizes well with "replacement theology." It teaches that there will be no future kingdom. Rather, the kingdom promises are being fulfilled (in a non-literal way) by the church. The nation Israel will not enjoy a future millennial kingdom, nor will the Messiah rule over the world from an earthly Davidic throne in Jerusalem. The kingdom of God is being enjoyed today in the hearts of believers in a spiritual way, but the nation Israel has no future kingdom to look forward to.
See our articles: Ten Things That Will Be True When Christ "Comes in His Kingdom" (Matthew 16:28) and "Let Thy Kingdom Come!"
God has given an unfailing formula for the destruction of Israel. If you want Israel to cease being a nation, then God has indicated exactly what must take place. Every Jew-hating Muslim and every anti-Semitic Arab who is bent upon the destruction of Israel should diligently study these passages of Scripture, for in them is the secret of Israel's demise.
Also every Christian leader who denies that the nation Israel has a wonderful future in their land, under their Messiah, according to all the kingdom prophecies given by the prophets, should give serious consideration to what God has said must happen if Israel is to cease being a nation before Him.
Jeremiah 31:35-36
35: Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: 36: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
God has appointed the sun to shine by day and He has appointed the moon and stars to shine by night. He also stirs up the sea so that its waves roar (see NIV translation of Jeremiah 31:35-36). God says that if these ordinances depart from before Him, then will the seed (descendants) of Israel cease from being a nation before Him! The Jewish people can take great comfort from this promise. Every day when they see the sun, every night when they see the moon and stars, every visit to the ocean when they see the waves in action---they can know that their preservation as a people is secure!
The enemies of Israel need to change their strategy! Instead of aiming their mighty weapons of destruction upon the Jews and Jerusalem, they need to aim their missiles at the sun, moon and stars! They could start with the moon and try to knock it out of orbit! Instead of spending time in their secret laboratories trying to figure out how to deliver chemical weapons, they need to devise a plan to neutralize the waves of the ocean! But as long as the waves are roaring, and the sun, moon and stars are shining, Israel's future is secure!
Jeremiah 31:37
37: Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured...I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD
If the enemies of the Jews get frustrated by trying to vaporize the heavenly bodies and trying to neutralize the waves of the ocean, then God has another strategy which is guaranteed to destroy the Jews. All they need to do is measure the heaven above! The vastness of heaven (the second heaven, that is, the universe) is beyond the comprehension of our feeble minds. Scientists, now equipped with the Hubble telescope, tell us that there are at least 10 times more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand in all the beaches of the world! And yet, the further we look into the vast expanse of space, the more stars we see. The universe cannot be measured by man, nor can the stars be counted.
The enemies of Israel again need to abandon their hostile attacks against Israel, and start to develop bigger and better telescopes! Because only then will God cast off all the seed (descendants) of Israel. Israel's future is secure until they are successful!
Jeremiah 31:37
37: Thus saith the LORD; If...the foundations of the earth [can be] searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD
If looking up and measuring the heavens seems to be a task too great, then the enemies of the Jews can look down and seek to search out the earth beneath! Man's greatest efforts at searching the earth beneath and digging and drilling into it have barely scratched the surface! But if man can dig to the center of the earth, then God will cast off the seed (descendants) of Israel.
The enemies of Israel, having failed to obliterate the sun, moon and stars, having failed to neutralize the roaring waves of the ocean, having failed to measure the universe and count all the stars, still have one remaining solution if they are to destroy Israel. They had better start passing out shovels!
For further study see Jeremiah 33:19-26.
Those Christians who teach that the nation Israel has no future in the plan and purpose of God must face the same gargantuan obstacles as outlined above. How much better to simply take God at His Word and understand Israel's kingdom promises in the normal and natural and obvious sense.
That Israel has a glorious future centered in the kingdom of the Messiah is clearly seen in this passage:
Jeremiah 23:5-8
5: Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6: In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7: Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8: But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land
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The national entity called "Israel" died in AD 70 with the Roman conquest. The present nation of Israel does not even vaguely resemble it, and the Judiasm of present days does not even vaguely resemble Siniatic Judiasm, or the Pharisial Judiasm of the NT time period.
One must be careful how "REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY" is defined. Words mean things, and thus is the case here. In point of fact, there was no replacement at all Israel was ALWAYS the church. These are the words of the Apostle Paul:
I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2) That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3) For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethern, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4) Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5) Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. A`-men.
6) Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel,which ore of Israel:
7) Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall they seed be called.
8) That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted for seed.
So then, Replacement Theology as defined above is a misnomer. It would more accurate to call it "Expansion Theology". God has only ONE people, that people is the Church, composed of believing Jews and Believing Gentiles. The Amillenialism discussion is little more than a straw man by this particular author. One could make the same argument for Classical Premillenialism or Postmillenialism.
Then how do you read ACTS 7:38????
Agree.
Believers are always believers. See John 3, Salvation was always by grace through faith and men ALWAYS had to be born again.
Agree.
But Israel was NEVER the Church. The Church started on Pentacost.
Don't think so. You have to stop reading Hal Lindsey and his ilk:
37) This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethern, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
38) This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Si'-nai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us.
Let me save you the trouble, the word translated 'church' in that passage is the same Greek word ejkklhsiva/ [ekklesia] that is translated church or assembly. We get our English (spit!) word 'ecclesiastical' from it. Sure you don't want to reconsider that in light of the clear statement of God's word?
And not a different tree either.
Race, I love you man... and we have fought together on many a Creation-Evolution Thread in times past.
But in regards to this curious (and theologically-novel) Dispensationalistic Dogma that "the Church started on Pentecost" (not Pentacost, of course), I am compelled once again to call upon the witness of Spurgeon:
"THE CHURCH WAS NOT BORN AT PENTECOST. IT WAS BAR MITZVAH'D. No small matter, this. The church had a long, albeit dotted, history by the time the Spirit in Christ's fullness fell, and a glorious, albeit difficult, future. By Pentecost, the church, because of its history, its providentially-ordained organization and the Holy Spirit's promised guidance, was well-prepared to fulfill its function in the world. The Belgic Confession, in Article XXVII, states, We believe and profess one catholic or universal Church...This Church has been from the beginning of the world, and will be to the end thereof... It is God who saves. Calvinism did not originate in Geneva; it is found in Eden. God's people, the covenant line, would henceforth be the people redeemed by Him to live, once again, in terms of His Word." ~~ Messianic Orthodox Jew, the reverend Rabbi Steve Schlissel of Messiah's Congregation, NYC: as quoted from The Synagogue of Christ
"Israel was NEVER the Church. The Church started on Pentacost" Yes... We have even heard it asserted that those who lived before the coming of Christ do not belong to the Church of God; and perhaps it is a mercy that these absurdities are revealed one at a time, in order that we may be able to endure their stupidity without dying of amazement! RaceBannon... You need to read your Bible instead of whoever is teaching you this false doctrine.
Best, OP
I don't attend FreeRepublic of late as much as I used to. Sometimes the month goes well and I spend all my time on Business. Sometimes the month goes poorly and I worry over-much about the Business. Que sera sera. I should probably re-read James 4:13-15 more often.
Anyway, folks frequently ask me to "bump" them my posts. I don't keep a "ping" list, and usually forget quite a few. For your interest on the subject, here's a "ping" to my #18.
best, OP
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