What the confirmation of Gene Robinson means

Denver Catholic Register ^ | September 3, 2003 | George Weigel

[TradicalRC]

Agreeing that his confirmation reflected a profound change in Anglican teaching on homosexuality, Canon Robinson remarked, "Just simply to say that it goes against tradition and the teaching of the Church and Scripture does not necessarily make it wrong."

[TradicalRC]

To quote Dave Barry; "Folks, I'm not making this up."

[ahadams2]

Yep that is a real quote - do they also mention the one where he stated to reporters that while he didn't think his 'consecration' would shatter the Anglican Communion, even if it did, he refused to take responsibilty for it?

[dsc]

"Canon Robinson remarked, "Just simply to say that it goes against tradition and the teaching of the Church and Scripture does not necessarily make it wrong."

That's one of those things that are so twisted I find it hard to believe they are of purely human origin.

Surely the finesse of the very Father of Lies was needed to concoct that brain twister.

[GirlShortstop]

Surely the finesse of the very Father of Lies was needed to concoct that brain twister.

Hey!  What happened to "Well, duh. Who else?" ?   ;-)

[dsc]

Trying to expand my vocabulary.

[dangus]

I'm kinda disappointed in Weigel. I *agree* with him, but his tact is poor. It's like telling a woman whose husband just ran odd, "Well, you obviously are pretty bad at picking husbands..." Even if its true, the message isn't going to be well-received.

And he's wrong to treat the ECUSA as the Anglican church. It's just one, fairly small territory 2.3 million out of 77 million, and the rest of the Anglican Church are steamed. The ECUSA is a scandal to the Anglican church, and I'm not one to want to throw stones at this junction. And we don't help dialogue by getting into past sins, either.
I'd rather see the RCC aim for bringing in Anglicans diocese-by-diocese rather than so focus on the entire Anglican communion as to fret over one, small heretical mutation.

And that's all the ECUSA is. Thank God they're not representative of the rest of the Anglicans.

[GirlShortstop]

Trying to expand my vocabulary.

Well then, fine work!

[dangus]

"just ran odd" = "just ran off."

The "d" and the "f" are next to each other on the keyboard. If not, I might think it a freudian slip. :)

[ahadams2]

naah if the husband ran off with another man, "ran odd" would be entirely appropriate, no?

...it's been a long week folks....

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP - YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!

[jocon307]

Hey, don't feel bad, sometimes they don't leave, they just run odd!

I liked it, I really liked it.

[Ex-Episcopalian]

What does INTREP stand for?

[TradicalRC]

I must say that I do not know much about the Episopal Church or the Anglican Church, so maybe you could clarify things for me. Is the Lambeth Conference something that applies to the worldwide Anglican Church? And did they not give tacit approval to homosexual relationships at their conference.

I agree that if we are constantly dwelling on the sins of the past, then we can no longer move on to a better, more truthful and loving place. But the past is relevant, and quite a bit of what we are dealing with today can be traced back pretty directly to some pivotal points in the past.

As for tact, the prophets also were not known for their tact.

[TradicalRC]

Oh man, I liked just ran odd better. I've run odd myself a couple of times.

[LiteKeeper]

I am a retired Army officer (artillery, MI, and chaplain). I have the privilege of teaching several classes in Colorado Springs to high school, college, and adults on comparative worldviews (biblical vs secular). As I read the various threads, some impress me as good for illustrating different worldviews. So, using some Army terminology, I mark "incidents" as "SPOTREPS" (spot report) and "descriptions of the current world scene" as "SITREPs" (situation reports). INTREP (Intelliegence Report) provides information of an event involving those of the "opposition;" INTSUM (Intelligence Summary) provides more general information. When I get home, I download these SPOTREPs and SITREPs to a database for future use.

Does that help?

[dangus]

The Lambeth Conference did condemn the apoointment of actively homosexual bishops. Whatever else they failed to condemn, doing that made it clear that homosexuality was disordered.

To win people over, we should stick to the eternal facts.

[Ex-Episcopalian]

Sure does! Thank you.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Statement: "What the confirmation of Gene Robinson means"

Response: In the 15th -17th centuries the church and the secular arms of our society acted. In the 21st century the church debates, discusses, has a big tent and room at the table.

[TradicalRC]

That much they condemned, but my question is how much of the homosexual agenda did they approve?

[trad_anglican]

Is the Lambeth Conference something that applies to the worldwide Anglican Church?

The Lambeth Conference is a decennial meeting of all the bishops of the Anglican Communion. Resolutions passed at the conference, while not formally binding on any of the churches of the Anglican Communion, express the collegial opinion of the Communion. The Lambeth Conference passed a resolution strongly opposed to the action that ECUSA has recently taken.