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Ted Williams' body already frozen; daughter fighting: (Science & Modern Immortality)
ESPN.com ^ | 8 Jul 02 | AP

Posted on 07/08/2002 6:40:29 PM PDT by xzins

Williams' body already frozen; daughter fighting

ESPN.com news services

HERNANDO, Fla. -- Ted Williams' estate will ask a judge to decide if the baseball great's body should be cremated or frozen, a move to try to resolve a family feud over the remains.

Al Cassidy, the executor of the estate, will file Williams' will in state court on Tuesday or Wednesday and ask the judge to rule on the issue, John Heer, a lawyer for Williams' oldest daughter, said Monday. Heer contends Williams wanted to be cremated.

The daughter, Bobby-Jo Ferrell, has accused her half brother, John Henry Williams, of moving their father's body from a Florida funeral home to Alcor Life Extension Foundation, where bodies are frozen.

She says John Henry Williams wants to preserve their father's DNA, perhaps to sell it in the future. The brother has not returned repeated calls seeking comment.

Ferrell plans to ''rescue'' her father's body from the cryonics company in Scottsdale, Ariz. She says the body already is frozen. Both the Boston Globe and Boston Herald are reporting that the body is frozen as well.

''My dad's in a metal tube, on his head, so frozen that if I touched him it would crack him because of the warmth from my fingertips,'' Ferrell told Boston's WBZ-TV. ''It makes me so sick.''

The Herald, citing an unnamed source, said Williams may have agreed to being frozen. "It wouldn't surprise me if Ted was deep into this. Ted loved science. Ted Williams was not a stupid man. If he made up his mind about something he did it and (expletive) everyone else," The Herald quoted the unnamed source as saying. "To blame it all on John Henry is not fair. Ted loved John Henry.''

Karla Steen, a spokeswoman for Alcor, would not confirm Monday that Williams' body is at the facility. Ferrell has said she was told by the funeral home that the body was taken to Arizona.

Ferrell did not return several phone messages Monday and no one answered the door at her house. Bill Boyles and Pam Price, attorneys for the estate's executor, also did not return a phone message.

Ted Williams, the last major league hitter to bat better than .400 in a season, died Friday at age 83.

No funeral will be held, according to the wishes of the former Boston Red Sox slugger. Two memorial services are planned on July 22 at Fenway Park.

George Hommell, a fishing buddy of Ted Williams, said it was a shame family members are fighting over the body.

''Something like this makes you sick to your stomach,'' he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Cryonics Q&A Q: How is cryonics done?

A: The body is rushed to a cryonics lab immediately after death to minimize deterioration. The remains are chilled in dry ice to a temperature of about minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit and injected with chemicals that minimize the damage of the freezing process. Then the body is brought to a temperature of minus 320 degrees with liquid nitrogen and moved to a vacuum chamber for long-term storage. A typical vacuum chamber holds 14 frozen bodies.

Q: How long will it be before people can be brought back to life from a frozen state?

A: Most medical experts believe it will never be possible because of numerous technical obstacles. Cryonics proponents believe they will be able to revive frozen remains by the end of the century.

Q: How many people have been frozen in this procedure?

A: There are about 90 humans and a few dozen pets in cryonic preservation in the United States today. The ``oldest'' of them was frozen in 1967.

Q: How much does it cost?

A: The least expensive labs charge about $30,000 to freeze a body; some charge more than $100,000.

Q: What is the most impressive feat ever achieved by cryonics?

A: A few years ago South African scientists demonstrated a procedure that enabled them to freeze a rat's heart at 320 degrees below zero, then thaw it and set it beating again. But the validity of the claim and its practical value were questioned even by cryonics enthusiasts.

Q: What is the difference between cryonics and cryogenics?

A: Cryonics is the practice of freezing human remains for future revitalization. Cryogenics is the study and manipulation of materials at extremely low temperatures.

Q: Can cryonics preserve DNA?

A: Cryonics is generally not considered a proper way to preserve DNA.

-- The Associated Press


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: eternity; immortality; religion; salvation; science
Seeking to become wise they became fools.

This article deals with so much theology that it's hard to list it all. But what strikes me initially is that this so-called science we have today truly is a religion.

Genesis = evolution
life abundant = psychology/sociology
eternal life = crogenics (the god of the refrigerator)

The trumpet shall sound and the dead in Christ shall rise first....

1 posted on 07/08/2002 6:40:30 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
The solution is obvious, and originally proposed by Solomon in a different kind of case. Divide the body in two pieces, freeze half and burn the rest. That should satisfy everyone.

Hank

2 posted on 07/09/2002 5:00:12 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: fortheDeclaration; winstonchurchill; ShadowAce; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; ...
Check out Hank's #2. Who said Christians don't have a sense of humor!?!
3 posted on 07/09/2002 6:52:51 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins; Hank Kerchief
Many are called and a few are frozen.

Farewell, Ted!
4 posted on 07/09/2002 6:57:49 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Award to the best "glib" response.
5 posted on 07/09/2002 7:04:20 PM PDT by xzins
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To: drstevej
Kind of a Mikey Mouse thing to do.
6 posted on 07/09/2002 7:05:17 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Hank Kerchief
Oh Hank you bad boy:)
7 posted on 07/09/2002 7:07:19 PM PDT by restornu
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To: xzins
The human body becomes a broken shell after death. Why should it be anybody's business but Mr. Williams what happens to his mortal coil after he sheds it?
BTW: Given the choice I think I would prefer to be buried in a simple pine box.
8 posted on 07/09/2002 7:26:20 PM PDT by Commander8
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To: Commander8
BTW: Given the choice I think I would prefer to be buried in a simple pine box.

You and me both. And I'm none to fond of the idea of embalming and someone checking out the length of my fingernails about 200 years from now.

Williams can ask for whatever he wants, as can you. What he asks for, though, might reveal loads about what he or his culture currently believes.

9 posted on 07/09/2002 7:35:59 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Hank Kerchief
Thank you Solomon. But there remains one problem. Do you slice him horizontally or vertically?
10 posted on 07/09/2002 7:52:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Do you slice him horizontally or vertically?

Can we get a french cut....maybe RONCO has just the slicer/dicer for this job.

11 posted on 07/09/2002 7:56:25 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Commander8
Given the choice I think I would prefer to be buried in a simple pine box.

No thanks! I don't want to be buried at all. What they do with my body when I'm through with it, I couldn't care less. I told my wife, if I die before she does, to throw my body in the nearest dumpster, wait a couple of days, and declare me missing.

She didn't like the idea at all. I was beginning to think she was more sentimental than I had believed.

"Honey," I said, "look at the money you'll save on the funeral expenses."

"Pff!" she said.

"What do you mean, 'Pff!'?"

"I mean," she said in that you-have-to-explain-everything-to-a-man tone, "what good is it to save a few bucks on a funeral, if I can't collect the life insurance because I can't prove you're dead?"

My wife's so smart. Aren't I lucky?

Hank

12 posted on 07/09/2002 8:00:39 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief; drstevej
Hank, that's such a good story that I saved it. You're hot tonight...keep 'em comin'.
13 posted on 07/09/2002 8:07:12 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Hank Kerchief; xzins
But if your "missing" she can continue to collect your social security checks and pension checks. :-)
14 posted on 07/09/2002 8:20:15 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe; Hank Kerchief; drstevej
But if your "missing" she can continue to collect your social security checks and pension checks. :-)

Marly, I sense a scam artist in you just struggling to get out.

15 posted on 07/09/2002 8:29:11 PM PDT by xzins
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; drstevej
Could be her assets are frozen
16 posted on 07/09/2002 9:11:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Could be her assets are frozen

You are officially in the "glib" comment contest! LOL!

17 posted on 07/09/2002 9:22:56 PM PDT by xzins
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To: drstevej; xzins
Many are called, but few are frozen.

LOL.

18 posted on 07/10/2002 1:09:36 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: xzins
Greed has no bounds.
19 posted on 07/10/2002 6:58:34 AM PDT by kjam22
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