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[Catholic Caucus] "Ecclesia Dei" About to Be Dissolved
Gloria TV ^ | September 11, 2020 | Gloriia TV

Posted on 09/11/2020 12:05:21 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] "Ecclesia Dei" About to Be Dissolved


The former commission “Ecclesia Dei” which was established in 1988 for the Old Liturgy, and turned into a section of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in January 2019 is going to disappear definitely in October, writes MarcoTosatti.com (September 10).

The section is currently led by French Monsignor Patrick Descourtieux. Tosatti considers this a step towards dismantling the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum.

One consequence will be that Old Rite communities will end up under the authority of the Congregation for the Religious lead by Cardinal João Braz De Aviz who is known as a killer of religious communities.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: dictatorpope; francischism; francismercy; tlm
Vatican sends extraordinary form Mass survey to world’s bishops

Be afraid, very afraid.

1 posted on 09/11/2020 12:05:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Not ALL of the old rite communities will be under Cardinal João Braz De Aviz. :) .
2 posted on 09/11/2020 12:31:12 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: ebb tide

For the record, the “extraordinary form” is the Mass that was celebrated for almost a thousand years; the mass that his Holiness of blessed memory Pope Saint Pius V, in his bull Quo Primum, authorised all ordained priests to celebrate, in perpetuity. It is part of the Depositum Fidei.

And note that the new “masses” sanctioned by Vatican II are not conformant either with the Magisterium or with Holy Scripture. They state, explicitly, that the Blood of Christ was shed “pro omnes, whereas Jesus said “pro multis (’peri pollo:n’ in the Gospel of Matthew). Those are the words of institution, and unless the priest at the consecration says those exact same words, he no longer stands in persona Christi, and the sacrament is invalid.

I am old enough to remember Vatican II, and my opinion now is the same as it was then: “Hodie infusum est venenum in ecclesia Dei”. Dominus vobiscum.


3 posted on 09/11/2020 12:38:11 PM PDT by Samuel Smiles
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To: Samuel Smiles

See https://novusordowatch.org/wire/

(In fact look up works by the reverend Fr. Anthony Cekada including on U-Tube; he is a pillar of faith and wisdom. May he R.I.P.)


4 posted on 09/11/2020 1:24:19 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (...unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. - Jesus (Luke 13:3))
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To: Samuel Smiles
They state, explicitly, that the Blood of Christ was shed “pro omnes, whereas Jesus said “pro multis (’peri pollo:n’ in the Gospel of Matthew). Those are the words of institution

Untrue. The (awful) English translation pre-2011 said "for all". The Latin has never said anything but "pro multis". See link for example. (Be prepared to scroll down a long way.)

5 posted on 09/11/2020 1:45:27 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: rmichaelj
Not ALL of the old rite communities will be under Cardinal João Braz De Aviz. :) .

But which ones will be? The only major ones I know of are FSSP and SSPX, and SSPX does not currently listen to Rome, so that sounds like this is really only going to hit FSSP, and maybe some tiny traditional priests?
6 posted on 09/11/2020 3:01:23 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

I suspect all ICKSP and FSSP.


7 posted on 09/11/2020 3:54:12 PM PDT by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: Repent and Believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ_Ci4XeS6c


8 posted on 09/11/2020 3:55:04 PM PDT by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: Svartalfiar; piusv
May I remind all of how the dictator pope destroyed the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in the first six months of his "pontificate" for merely gravitating towards offering the TLM?

Damn the "ecclesia dei", damn the "indults", damn the moto propio, "SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM", full speed ahead with with francis' "mercy church", along with his new "Our Father" and "Gloria".

9 posted on 09/11/2020 4:24:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

True. This could affect any/all of the diocesan TLM’s as well, but they aren’t technically the “ED”/indult TLM’s.


10 posted on 09/11/2020 4:35:45 PM PDT by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: piusv

But how many bishops are violating “Summorum Pontificum” now and how many more will be encouraged to do so? It’s obvious Bergoglio has no respect for canon law, even before he changes it to his own liking.

Pope Francis did make the comment that he may go down in history as having split the Church.


11 posted on 09/11/2020 4:58:10 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

This will drive trads to the sspx, but maybe pope does not care because he sees it as a small number, worth losing to stop the growth of the TLM.


12 posted on 09/11/2020 9:25:40 PM PDT by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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To: Marchmain
This will drive trads to the sspx, but maybe pope does not care because he sees it as a small number, worth losing to stop the growth of the TLM.

Francis did boast how he may go down in history as having split the Church. Too bad he's on the schismatic side.

13 posted on 09/11/2020 10:23:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Campion

Thank you for your comment. It was a long time ago when had my first communion, but the prayer book is right here in my library, and it indeed says “for many”. Of course, there may have been some other version out there, bit that is the book my headmaster gave me when I graduated from high school.


14 posted on 09/12/2020 1:56:17 AM PDT by Samuel Smiles
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