Posted on 12/07/2019 11:08:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
We all know that Eve ate the apple in the Garden of Eden so that the Fall is all her fault.
Except that Genesis nowhere states that the forbidden fruit was an apple.
In fact, unless climatic conditions were much different then in that region, apples would likely not have grown in the area.
And Adam was with Eve in the Garden and ate the fruit as well.
What else do we know that we dont?
Were Adam and Eve symbols?
Some people, anxious to bridge the perceived chasm between science and faith, are quick to suggest that Adam and Eve were not real persons at all.
Perhaps they were mythical figures, symbols for humanity in general. When Robert Frost writes of two roads diverging in a yellow wood, I dont need to know where the wood is located because I understand that hes using poetic language. Maybe the same is true with the first humans.
The Hebrew word adam simply means man. Nowhere does Genesis say that God or anyone else gave him the proper name Adam; you can translate the Hebrew as man everywhere Adam appears and be correct. The New International Version follows most translations in rendering Genesis 1:20, for Adam no suitable helper was found. But theres no change in the Hebrew from earlier references to him as the man (cf. 1:27, 2:7, 15, 18).
Similarly, Eve doesnt make her appearance by name in the NIV until Genesis 3:20; previously she is woman (2:21, 23, etc.). Her name probably means living, pointing to her status as the first mother of humanity. So perhaps Adam and Eve are symbols for man and life.
This wouldnt be the last time Scripture uses symbolic language to make its point. Jesus called himself the true vine and his Father the gardener (John 15:1), but no one thinks he is describing botanical truth. Earlier, he described himself as the gate for the sheep (John 10:7), and his disciples knew he was not speaking as a carpenter.
Could it be that the writer of Genesis used man and life to make larger symbolic statements about humanity?
Perhaps their temptation narrative is meant to describe such experience as we all face it. Perhaps the later narratives which describe the Tower of Babel and Noahs flood, equally troubling to some who wish to reconcile Genesis with current scientific knowledge, are equally symbolic in nature.
How does the rest of the Bible see Adam and Eve?
The first question to ask in interpreting any piece of literature is to ask what its author intended to say.
If the text is clearly poetic or symbolic in nature, we can know that the writer wants us to avoid literalistic interpretation. If the text is clearly historical and narrative in nature, giving places and dates and events, we can know that the writer wants us to treat the literature as factual rather than symbolic.
There is poetry to be found in the Genesis records of Adam and Eve. Note the mans ecstatic reaction to the creation of woman (Genesis 1:23), and Gods condemnation of the snakes deception and the couples sin (Genesis 3:14-19). But the rest of the text is written in a straightforward, historical narrative. Nothing here causes us to believe that the writer intended us to view his writing as mythical or symbolic.
Now lets consider how Adam is regarded in the New Testament.
In Romans 5, Paul wishes to explain how sin entered the human race. He begins: Sin entered the world through the one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all have sinned (v. 12). As a result, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses (v. 14).
Then he compares the trespass of the one man to the life given through the one man, Jesus Christ (v. 17). Clearly, Paul treats Adam and his sin as factual events in history.
In 1 Corinthians, he expands the argument: Since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive (1 Corinthians 15:21-22). He treats Christ and Adam in equivalent ways: either they are both historical figures or neither is. Later, the apostle reminds Timothy, Adam was formed first, then Eve (1 Timothy 2:13).
It seems clear that Paul, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, considered Adam and Eve to be real figures of history.
For that reason, I see them the same way.
Why I believe Adam and Eve were real
What difference does it make whether they were actual or symbols?
I have seen no list of truths fundamental to the faith that makes the historicity of Adam and Eve a crucial litmus test for genuine salvation. When I baptize new believers, I do not ask what they believe about Adam and Eve, but about Jesus.
So where is the larger relevance of the issue? It is found at two points.
First, we should interpret Scripture as it interprets itself.
If Paul sees Adam and Eve as historical, his inspired opinion should guide mine. We are not free to treat the Bible as a work of modern art, projecting our own thoughts onto its canvas. Those who believe that Adam and Eve were symbols should give us biblical reasons for their position.
Second, we should interpret science through Scripture, not the reverse.
Current opinion regarding the age and origin of man must not determine how we read the Bible.
Heres one more reason why I think Adam was real: I see him in me.
I have his eyes for forbidden fruit, his ability to blame others for my sins.
Does he live in your mirror as well?
They have to be real. Brian Williams interviewed them right after they were kicked out of the Garden.
My take is that there is a good chance that they were symbolic, but I lean toward them being real people.
That Eve... whoa she was such a tease.
“Here Adam, have a bite of the apple”.
True, Adam was the craft beer maker at Gobekti Tepe.
Adam’s apple?
When you research the Jewish history, you find that when the Jewish people were held captive in Babylon for 100 years around 600BC, they had lots of free time on their hands.
Jewish history says that this is when much of the four books of the Bible were first written down.
Before that, they were stories passed down from generation to generation.
I used agree with the common idea that Moses wrote the first 4 books but the FIRST time they were actually written in a modern language and SAVED in one place was in Babylon in 600BC
Heres a shocker: perhaps the Bible means what it says.
“My take is that there is a good chance that they were symbolic,...”
I think they were two tribes, The first to ever meet. The Adam tribe and the Eve tribe. That would solve the missing females problem. The later spin off Cain tribe exterminated the Able tribe.
Real people.
Next?
Adam and Eve sound a bit Anglosised for an accurate representation. As are Joseph, Mary, Luke, Mark, etc...... Such names did not exist among those during the time or place.
Be careful about Biblical interpretation. It isn't always straight forward.
Maybe stranded aliens?
Adam is from Hebrew word adamah, soil. Chavah (Eve) is from Hebrew word chayah, life.
Genesis 4 New International Version (NIV)
Cain and Abel
4 Adam[a] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.[b] She said, With the help of the Lord I have brought forth[c] a man. 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
5 This is the written account of Adams family line.
When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them Mankind[a] when they were created.
3 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.
This Christian Post is about like Newsweak.
Some believe the fruit was fig because of the references to fig leaves and Jesus destruction of fig tree in final week before the cross.
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It can be fun and sometimes helpful to argue about the meanings of names and events.
However, if folks don’t reckon Adam and Eve as actual real human people, regardless what translated names you want to give them, then these people apparently don’t believe the Gospel.
Luke lists ALL the generations of the bloodline from Adam to Christ.
If Christ’s buddy Luke had meant to be allegorical in an way, then he is really bad at it.
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