Posted on 12/02/2019 6:39:21 PM PST by ebb tide
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I think this is exactly what is happening. Remember, most of the heretical “thinkers” of VII were Jesuits (Rahner, etc.) and then of course there was the raving pantheist, indifferentist, non-Christian, nature-worshipper Teilhard de Chardin, SJ.
My family had a branch of Catholics that were Stained Glass.
That means that they were in. Way in. Sponsered windows at the Catherdral and was generally involved. That branch had the Bishop and the Arch over for drinks on special occaions.
when it came to Jesuits, I never heard them mentioned without the world Damned.
word Damned.
This is certainly all true. Ironically, though, the Jesuits kind of hated Bergoglio for decades. They thought (accurately) that he was an unstable, divisive troublemaker. Their Superior General begged John Paul II to NOT make the guy a bishop.
I have never trusted Jesuits. When the Spanish were conquering Mexico and the American southwest, they were accompanied by Jesuits who enslaved the Indians and coerced their conversions. Their methods were so harsh that word got back to Rome, and they were yanked from the mission, ultimately replaced by Franciscans.
I think us lust for lower was even a bit too much for his fellow Jesuits. But now all is forgiven.
Sorry, that would be lust for power!
It surprises me in some ways that they got to be so powerful, since really most people seemed to 8nclude the word “damned” when rederrfing to the Jesuits. And they were even suppressed once.
The other thing that’s weird is that Jesuits, by their constitution, are not supposed to accept the Papacy if it is offered to them. But I guess once it really was offered, well, that was different.
Jesuits aren’t Catholic. They are communists.
The Catholic Church has already been taken over by homosexuality. The mere fact that abortion (Death to innocents) and Pedo-Homosexuality (rape of youth both boys and girls and constant buggering) is the NEXUS of the TWO Great ABOMINATIONS in the Eyes of God.
The mere fact that this Pope resides in the midst of his sanctioned SIN against God makes the Church Dead.
Torquemada
Malachi Martin, who was a Jesuit himself, expressed grave concern over a Jesuit becoming Pope.
Tomas de Torquemada was a Dominican, BTW, not a Jesuit. He died 42 years before the Jesuits were founded.
They seem to be a small minority, and I think they are probably persecuted by the heterodox within their order.
By that logic, the United States was finished after Obama. We should have just ceremonially burned the Constitution and shut the lights off.
It's not the Pope's church. He didn't start it, he doesn't get to end it, it doesn't belong to him. He's merely the temporary custodian. Maybe he's a good custodian, maybe he's a bad one, but he's never anything more. The sins he commits and the bad example he sets will come back to him at his judgement, but they don't somehow magically poison the church.
If you let someone put you in power you shouldn’t be surprised when they turn around and take you out of power.
Unfortunately, the issue is “Modernists” infiltrating, not just “Jesuits”. To think it is the latter, gives the impression that they’re the only problem. The Jesuits aren’t the only Modernists.
There are two good Jesuits,Fathers Mitch Paces and the founder of Ignatius Publishers.
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