Posted on 08/09/2019 8:10:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
“Yet, catholics will not disown him. “
The bishops put him there. The fact that the creme de creme of the Catholic Church placed such a leftist politician in St. Peter’s chair speaks volumes about what has happened to the Catholic Church.
The problem is not just this Pope. The problem is systemic.
Is that what you think Jesus founded on the apostles?
Jesus declared in Mark 13:23 ... But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
This was long before any jot or tittle of the so called New Testament was ever placed upon plant fibers, animal skins, or chiseled into stone. Traditions of men make the WORD null and void. Reason why there will be an education period called the Lord’s day.
Yes well when the pope says he sees no difference between RC, Orthodox and Protestants it means he stands for nothing. He doesn’t care about Holy Tradition, he doesn’t care about the Holy Mysteries. He doesn’t care about Apostolic Succession. How could anyone pledge allegiance to him? He stands for nothing. He’s like the frog that was neither hot or cold. Lukewarm. Therefore God will spit this charlatan out of his mouth.
I don’t think this communist pope sees a difference between Islam and Christianity. Even on the face of continued Muslim terrorism. His only goal is to recoup all the money the RC lost and will loose from lawsuits caused by the perverted homo and otherwise child molesting priesthood.
“Yet, catholics will not disown him.”
This Catholic disowns him. He’s a manifest heretic. Yet I am not going to surrender the Church to him because, as the saying goes, “That would be letting the terrorists win.”
I cannot apologize for someone else, but I regret that a fellow Catholic called you “stupid”. We orthodox — small “o” here need to stick together during these times.
If you might name the specific Popes who “carried out the . . . . mass slaughter of the Jews” you would advance your case.
I’m opposed to all the speakers of the house who covertly formed seditious alliances with martians. Who wouldn’t be? However, naming names helps to establish that what I am opposing is not merely a figment of some one’s imagination, whether my own, or someone whom I trust.
“...atheist...obviously hates the Church...”
Agree. Look at his eyes - scary.
I’ve disowned him.
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]:19
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy.
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy.
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured .[1]:153
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[1]:204
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony.[1]:218
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes
Jesus built his church and that’s where my belief comes from. Religion is man made. Catholics have killed millions of Christians over the years, so it’s quite insulting to insinuate they have the same origins.
If you actually took the time to see what the Vatican teaches versus what the Bible says, you will have your eyes opened.
I didn’t call you stupid.
Enjoy!
As are ALL governing bodies directed by men, not God.
Well, the rest of us will do the work the Pope won’t do.
“I don’t separate Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants”
Well, we (Orthodox) do. We do so in love. But you don’t do anyone a favor by telling them that whatever they want to believe is OK. Truth is not relative.
These people were all corrupt. In some cases, spectacularly so. But AFAIK none of them attempted to undermine the basic faith of their church. (FTR I am Eastern Orthodox and we tend to roll our eyes at the whole “infallibility” claim.) Francis appears to be in something of a class by himself. There have been a few popes who strayed close to, or slightly over the boundary line of Roman Catholic orthodoxy. But none have so openly trampled on that line until now.
How has what he said in the OP any different than what Vatican II and the rest of the Vatican II popes have been saying and teaching when they teach and profess the Catholic Church merely SUBSISTS in (Rather than IS) Christ’s Church? Which completely contradicts Catholic teaching prior to it.
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