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Which Should Be Illegal: Sodomy or Christianity? (A Thought Experiment
The Stream ^
| 6/8/19
| John Zmirak
Posted on 06/09/2019 1:06:54 PM PDT by KierkegaardMAN
By JOHN ZMIRAK June 7, 2019 234 Comments
John Zmirak Pick one. Seriously.
This is the choice the intolerant left is forcing on us. Liberals pretended right up to the day before Obergefell v. Hodges was decided that all they wanted was tolerance. Privacy. To keep government out of peoples intimate lives. And that sounds good to us. Ive never met a single person and I move in some pretty right-wing circles who wanted to imprison or fine anyone for private sexual conduct. Most of the Christian opponents of the LGBT agenda just want themselves and their institutions left alone. We want freedom of contract and association, with certain justified Civil Rights exceptions. Those old-fashioned American ideals.
President Trump really believes that this is what hes fighting for, when he commits the U.S. to decriminalizing sodomy in foreign countries. But hes mistaken.....
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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antipope; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; popefrancis; romancatholicism
Trump should drop the rainbow flag.
To: KierkegaardMAN
Which should be illegal? muzziedom or sodomy? Muzzies throw gays off tall buildings. Which one should be outlawed in a civilized world?
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posted on
06/09/2019 1:08:54 PM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(Islam, not a religion, a totalitarian political ideology aiming for world domination. -Wilders)
To: KierkegaardMAN
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posted on
06/09/2019 1:31:46 PM PDT
by
mjp
((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
To: KierkegaardMAN
Well, sodomy brings so much to the table besides the liberation of men who like to insert things into other men. Whereas all Christianity has ever brought the world is art, music, literature, morality, hope, salvation, a future ...
It's pretty obvious which one has the more positive influence on humankind collectively.
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posted on
06/09/2019 3:03:51 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: IronJack
Time to keep the Christian Faith.
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posted on
06/09/2019 3:17:56 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: KierkegaardMAN
The article is a good summation.
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posted on
06/09/2019 3:44:33 PM PDT
by
marktwain
(President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
To: Biggirl
Correct. I concluded 25 years ago that the true Church was headed back to the Catacombs to preserve the truth.
The Frankfurt School long ago infiltrated Christian seminaries and universities. It laid the groundwork for the homoerotic subversion that followed.
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posted on
06/09/2019 4:13:20 PM PDT
by
YogicCowboy
("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
To: KierkegaardMAN
Ive never met a single person and I move in some pretty right-wing circles who wanted to imprison or fine anyone for private sexual conduct.He's never read FR.
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posted on
06/09/2019 4:27:12 PM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: NobleFree
I've been reading FR for well over 15 years, and --- aside from general insult and invective --- I've never heard FReepers go further than "they should get back in the closet." Nobody wants the kind of
surveillance state it would take, to prosecute people for what they did consensually in their homes.
I personally would like to overturn Obergefell vs Hodges and let the states take it where they may. I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be any enforcement on domestic stuff, just the reversal of the "Pride and Privilege" aspect of LGBT-STD-HIV and the firm suppression of public indecencies in public spaces.
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posted on
06/10/2019 5:05:58 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and let them that hate Him flee." Psalm 68:1)
To: KierkegaardMAN
Amen. Trump should not be so naive about the larger agenda.
Zmirak, as usual, nails it.
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posted on
06/10/2019 6:46:02 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and let them that hate Him flee." Psalm 68:1)
To: KierkegaardMAN
20 years ago that would be a silly question.
Most people would say "both" and be a bit insulted by the silliness of the question.
Now it is the litmus test that divides society.
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posted on
06/10/2019 6:54:38 AM PDT
by
Salman
(It's not a slippery slope, it's a staircase with each step deliberately taken.)
To: I want the USA back
Which should be illegal? muzziedom or sodomy? Both.
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posted on
06/10/2019 6:55:20 AM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I've been reading FR for well over 15 years, and --- aside from general insult and invective --- I've never heard FReepers go further than "they should get back in the closet."Just the other day I saw a post here that started: "Fecal sex should be a crime" (or words very much to that effect - first two words are an exact quote). Trying to find the link ...
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posted on
06/10/2019 10:35:12 AM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
06/10/2019 10:46:32 AM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: NobleFree
Okey-doke.
"Never say Never," I guess!
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posted on
06/10/2019 10:52:17 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Let's keep the *sapiens* in *Home sapiens*.)
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