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California Pastor Loses Job After Posting Sign Stating 'Homosexuality Is Still a Sin'
CBN News ^ | 01/14/2019 | Emily Jones

Posted on 01/14/2019 12:57:30 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

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To: 867V309

You’ve never seen a beautiful woman and had a quick thought? I have met men that have had thoughts about a man, and they are the furthest thing from homosexuals. Satan can throw thoughts at people! Be a Christian witness long enough and you will hear everything...


61 posted on 01/14/2019 3:04:07 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SkyDancer

LOL...I don’t know why you are picking a fight with me, unless you disagree with my message that Homosexuality is a Sin...


62 posted on 01/14/2019 3:05:25 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Flaming Conservative

I recommend leaving the denominational church altogether for a small non-denominational church where there is accountability...


63 posted on 01/14/2019 3:07:07 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: 867V309

>>I’m no scholar, but I’m not sure that being a homo is sinful. I’m pretty sure committing homo acts is.<<

That is basically the teaching of the RCC, but it begs the question of what is there other than sexual deviancy that defines homosexuality.


64 posted on 01/14/2019 3:12:00 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ("What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought." VDARE)
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To: 867V309; Jan_Sobieski

Let me try:

Heterosexual sex with someone who is not your spouse adultery. Lusting after someone of the opposite sex who is not your spouse also makes you guilty of adultery.

It is possible to recognize that someone is attractive and not lust after them and to have your mind made up in advance that even if an opportunity were to present itself you would not act upon it.

We all have a natural inclination to sin in some way, and all Christians do battle against sin. If someone recognizes their inclination to sin involves same-sex attraction, and they guard their thoughts and actions in order to avoid sinning, I wouldn’t call them homosexuals any more than I would call the straight person who guards their thoughts and actions an adulterer.


65 posted on 01/14/2019 3:15:10 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: PapaBear3625

>> If he does not act on his inclinations, then he has not sinned.<<

Without looking it up, isn’t there a biblical verse to the effect that if a man looks at a woman with impure thoughts he is already guilty of the sin he contemplates?


66 posted on 01/14/2019 3:16:38 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ("What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought." VDARE)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Apparently reading comprehension is not one of your stronger points.


67 posted on 01/14/2019 3:16:41 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
According to the Facebook post, Hoke says multiple people, including a church elder, threatened to leave if he did not step down as pastor.

So what? Why did he leave?

68 posted on 01/14/2019 3:24:20 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Jan_Sobieski

But he speaks the truth!


69 posted on 01/14/2019 3:26:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

As long as that accountability is to the LORD, according to His Word, I have no problem with non-denominational churches. In fact, we plan on attending a certain one in our town, as soon as they are moved into their building. I long ago gave up the notion that there is only one denomination that is the true church. The Church is the body of Christ, wherever they may meet for worship. There’s always going to be error in our teaching, wherever we worship, because we aren’t perfect. My main tenets are, what does the Bible say?, and Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Everything else is gravy.


70 posted on 01/14/2019 3:29:38 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Jan_Sobieski

>>Satan can throw thoughts at people!<<

Oh please, don’t get started with that “Devil made me do it” nonsense!


71 posted on 01/14/2019 3:37:30 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ("What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought." VDARE)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Just for the record, I’ve had Justin Hoke as one of my fb friends for the last year or so. With out going into anything his being fire has been in the works for awhile before the sign incident. The sign incident though might of been the straw that broke the camel backs per say.


72 posted on 01/14/2019 3:39:10 PM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

>>I recommend leaving the denominational church altogether for a small non-denominational church where there is accountability...<<

Over the course of many years I have heard many stories about the pastors and elders of such churches boinking the choir ladies and running off with some unsuspecting member’s wife or daughter. There was accountability alright!


73 posted on 01/14/2019 3:42:06 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ("What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought." VDARE)
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To: Flaming Conservative

>>My main tenets are, what does the Bible say?<<

When I hear someone say tha it always makes me question their sincerity since anyone with a normally functioning brain knows that there is nothing more controversial on planet Earth than what the Bible says!


74 posted on 01/14/2019 3:48:52 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ("What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought." VDARE)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

And the Lord spaketh, “No in the butt”


75 posted on 01/14/2019 3:53:40 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Pollster1

Amen.


76 posted on 01/14/2019 3:56:40 PM PST by upchuck (Bruce Jenner is still a man. Homosexuality is still sin. The culture may change. The Bible does not.)
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To: cyclotic

One of the sodomites, as the pastor called them said “love is love.” The pastor responded “and sin is sin.


And in between them sits ...and sex is not love.


77 posted on 01/14/2019 4:06:46 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: 867V309

I’m no scholar, but I’m not sure that being a homo is sinful. I’m pretty sure committing homo acts is.


A possibly more clear way to say it is: Being tempted is not a sin. Entertaining or acting upon the inappropriate behavior is.


78 posted on 01/14/2019 4:15:21 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Y'weren't supposed t'have a job in the first place, chief.

GOD'S supposedf to call you.

Yer free now, go serve The Lord.

79 posted on 01/14/2019 4:29:44 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

There are bad ones, and there are good ones. Find a good one that preaches the Bible


80 posted on 01/14/2019 4:42:26 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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