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1 posted on 10/12/2017 1:26:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I don’t know who or what “Francis” is, but he is certainly no Pope.

This creature is more demon than Holy


2 posted on 10/12/2017 1:31:17 PM PDT by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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To: ebb tide; All

Matthew 10:29 shows that Jesus taught that neither of two half-penny sparrows will fall to the ground apart from G-d’s will.


3 posted on 10/12/2017 1:40:17 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ebb tide

Leftists are so arrogant and so convinced of their own moral and intellectual superiority that they go ahead and trample on all sorts of cultural norms developed over thousands of years.

Bergoglio is one of these ignorant fools.


4 posted on 10/12/2017 1:44:45 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: ebb tide

Frankie has gone beyond toying with heresy. He is instituting it.


5 posted on 10/12/2017 1:52:22 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ebb tide
Strictly speaking one can,from an ethical/moral standpoint,make an argument against the death penalty.But something tells me that when you examine his positions on various subjects of significance his opposition to the death penalty would be far stronger than his opposition to,say,abortion...or pervert "marriage".

IOW I'm strongly inclined to believe that his opposition is politically based rather than based on morality.

If my hunch is correct it would be in keeping with his obvious Marxist sympathies.

And for the record...I'm a strong supporter of the DP.

6 posted on 10/12/2017 1:58:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: ebb tide

God is the one that instituted ‘capital punishment’... some think they are smarter than the Creator. But God did say that He was going to Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

We are up to our eye balls in that God sent famine...


7 posted on 10/12/2017 2:03:27 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ebb tide

Infallible


8 posted on 10/12/2017 2:07:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: ebb tide

You are absolutely right. However, the pope has the right to oppose the death penalty on practical grounds, not on theological or moral grounds.
He can say “The death penalty is allowed, but I think it should never be applied because I don’t trust any government to apply it fairly.”


9 posted on 10/12/2017 2:09:28 PM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: ebb tide

I’m pretty sure that Pope Francis thinks that capital punishment of duly convicted murderers is wrong, but that it was OK if Che Guevara shot anyone he wanted to in the head.


10 posted on 10/12/2017 2:31:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ebb tide

Toys with heresy? He practically rolls around in it, slathering it on his increasingly large body.


11 posted on 10/12/2017 2:39:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ebb tide

Here’s my take:
(I’m Southern Baptist, not Catholic)

Scripture authorizes capital punishment. It does so to Noah and it does so for specific cases in the first 5 books of the Old Testament.

However, I don’t think it necessarily requires capital punishment. I think part of giving man dominion over the earth and authority to institute governments, includes letting man decide how to handle punishments.

It gets down to what’s the goal.

If the goal is to protect society, then both capital punishment and incarceration meet the goal.

If the goal is deterent to others, capital punishment is hard to beat.

If the goal is justice, I suppose one can argue that capital punishment is less than full justice. But it seems the difference is so small as to be moot. The incarcerated person is deprived of most of their freedom.
And whether they die now or in 40 years, the ultimate punishment when they face their creator is coming. In fact, allowing them to live incarcerated gives them more time to accept Jesus and find God’s grace. And based on the book of Jonah, that is something we should desire for them. And if we think they don’t deserve God’s grace, well, none of us do. And that was the attitude God rebuked Jonah for.

Incarceration for years isn’t free, and the cost should be considered as well.

And as far as the Pope, it depends on whether he’s expressing a personal distaste or whether he’s actually calling into question the accuracy and/or authority of the scriptures which authorizes capital punishment.


12 posted on 10/12/2017 2:57:16 PM PDT by DannyTN
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