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The family lives out of town and they are arriving here tomorrow to 'reintroduce their twin daughter as a their son -'Nace' to the extended family. Fortunately, her grandfather- my dear dad- is deceased. (Natalia was named to honor our Dad- Nathaniel.) Our mother, whose now senile with dementia, is still cognizant enough to be upset and is completely bewildered at this news.

We are deeply saddened and worried for the twins. I'm not sure there is anything that an out of town extended family can do to help. We want her to feel loved and not rejected. We will pray to God to change Natalia's heart and for Light to enter this family. Unfortunately, we suspect that her mother has been encouraging and supportive of this oddity. They talk about 'how brave it is for her to come out!' She has told Olivia- 'He's a hero', be proud of your new twin brother,... blah, blah, barf.

My brother has already warned my older siblings to tell me to keep my mouth shut. I intend to be welcoming and show love and compassion for both twins and not to discuss the elephant in the room. It is important that this child does not experience further alienation from her own family. But I can't fake any type of congratulations or praise for her choice.

The research on transgendering is quite disturbing. Natalia will be 25 times more likely to commit suicide if she continues on this path. She is inviting tons of social trouble into her world and her twin sister's life. Especially, because she is very pretty, Natalia does not look masculine. My brother stated that Nace is going for counseling. I suspect it's to advance her transition, not reverse her course. If they begin testosterone hormone treatment, she risks: an inflamed liver, increased red blood cell counts and other negative hormonal effects. Her hormones & blood will need to be monitored for the rest of her life. It's unfathomable that any parent would allow this.

My Sis-in-law is a typical New England liberal loud-mouth witch who has been very inclusive of her lesbian friends in their family functions and as the twins' babysitters. SIL relishes all things freaky, strange, weird, and bizzaro and is proudly very "progressive." My brother and his wife are well educated, sports minded, working parents that started a family in their mid-40's. The girls have been educated in an upscale suburban public school with karate, softball, soccer, & swimming lessons. However, the twins were always dumped into the extended school environment (7AM-6PM.)

About two summers ago, my brother was proud to announce the girls were going to church camp for 'sex education.' But it was not to be VBS (Vacation Bible School); it was a Unitarian Church. I tried to warn him of their reputation, but he hates my conservative opinions and swore me off. I have to wonder what part that indoctrination played in Natalia's choice to reject her beautiful body that God had created.

We knew that both girls, but especially Natalia, had some development delays and is likely in the mild Asperger Spectrum. This social awkwardness may have been what steered her into this gender dysphoria encouraged by her mother and the latest progressive LGBT agenda.

Also, my SIL has always played one girl off of the other, and seemed to favor Olivia, named to honor SIL's deceased father, Oliver. We have noticed that each parent is typically paired off separately with one of the twins and they were not being treated equally or fairly. SIL manipulated and controlled when each girl could speak. SIL is a loud, over-bearing, controlling and heavy handed mother and person. OTH, my brother has no backbone and his domineering wife has always worn the pants.

We are deeply saddened and fearful for both Natalia's & Olivia's future. At Christmas 2016, Natalia was a thin attractive shy girl with lovely eyes and a beautiful smile. I pray that she is not too far gone into this abyss at only 13 years of age.

Please pray for Natalia and her family that God may enter their lives.

If anyone has had any experience with LGBT family or constructive ideas, please post it here.

1 posted on 10/06/2017 4:09:44 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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her family is celebrating the news.

Child abusers.

2 posted on 10/06/2017 4:14:46 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Future suicide.


3 posted on 10/06/2017 4:14:54 PM PDT by Dacula
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No advice, but I am so sorry you are having to deal with this.


4 posted on 10/06/2017 4:17:12 PM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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...welcome to America. Take her to Russia if you want her to have a NORMAL childhood. And I’m not being cynical...over there, they don’t have time for childhood fantasies, they simply want to raise normal kids.


5 posted on 10/06/2017 4:18:39 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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Prayers up for all involved.

Hate to get all political, but if the mom were not a stereotypical loudmouth liberal, I suspect this would not be happening in this family. There is enabling behavior going on here. A young teen wouldn’t be doing this whole transitional thing without parental approval.


6 posted on 10/06/2017 4:19:20 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Please be assured of my prayers.


7 posted on 10/06/2017 4:21:30 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the SEALs of Extortion 17 - and God Bless The United States of America.)
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“My brother has already warned my older siblings to tell me to keep my mouth shut.” You should really be talking to him. Family matter and all.


8 posted on 10/06/2017 4:21:59 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World)
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I am sorry to hear this news . I hope that your niece will see the light and be the beautiful girl she was meant to be.
PS your SIL sounds like a party to be around.


9 posted on 10/06/2017 4:22:11 PM PDT by ronniesgal (still winning (and a self satisfied Pr!ck, according to WMarshal))
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I've had a somewhat similar situation in my extended family. My two nieces have been grasping for attention their whole lives. My brother is an uncaring and inattentive parent (and probably on the sociopath spectrum) and his kids are always trying to one up each other for his attention.

One does something ridiculous and the other will go to an extreme to counter. One is now claiming she is "gender fluid" but may decide to be a boy. She's is not boyish at all. I know them very well. Not a bit of real "gender fluidity" in her.

When I am around I give them all the "fatherly" attention they don't get from their dad. But I'm afraid that it hasn't been enough. They also suffer from the narcissistic generation's look at me, look at me" syndrome. I love them, but it gets old.
10 posted on 10/06/2017 4:22:19 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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Sick, I wouldn’t let them in my house. And I wouldn’t go to them to the perverted debutante party for a tranny.
And the big warning sign is your brother sent word for you to keep your mouth shut? WTF?

DO you normally dance like a monkey on a stick when ordered?
Heck no... I’d do something else that day for my own family.


12 posted on 10/06/2017 4:26:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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Horrible news.


13 posted on 10/06/2017 4:26:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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SIL is a loud, over-bearing, controlling and heavy handed mother and person. OTH, my brother has no backbone and his domineering wife has always worn the pants.

There’s the problem right there . . .a cuck for a “father” rather than a real man married to a real woman


14 posted on 10/06/2017 4:26:45 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee" Hey, NFL, why didn't you any of you bold guys hire Kaepernick? #GoodbyeGoodell)
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I have no constructive ideas. Only concern. What insanity! And the family is being asked to participate in the abuse of this liberal mother’s craziness.
If the two children are identical twins and one of them is really the other sex, then how can they be identical?

Saying a prayer for you and these girls.


22 posted on 10/06/2017 4:37:42 PM PDT by Nevadan
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Indulging delusions is usually harmful.


25 posted on 10/06/2017 4:40:27 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Read this now: http://quillette.com/2017/10/06/misunderstanding-new-kind-gender-dysphoria/


27 posted on 10/06/2017 4:46:09 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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I agree with talking to your brother in private . He may not even be aware of the irreparable damage this will cause your niece if he has bought into the liberal lies. At least try to convince him to postpone any transition until she is an adult to stall this thing.
Prayers sent up for your niece.


29 posted on 10/06/2017 4:50:55 PM PDT by gawatchman
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Dreadful news. I’m afraid there’s not much you can do about it. But I think you are right to continue to be loving toward her. Prayers for her and for you and your family.


31 posted on 10/06/2017 4:54:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I have advice but it would not be well received.


33 posted on 10/06/2017 4:56:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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So sad. My heart goes out to these girls and to you too. This puts you in a very tough spot. I could not keep my mouth shut, I’m afraid.

I think it’s absolutely criminal for any parent to allow child to get into this crazy faddish sex-change thing until they are 21 and can do it without permission. When your niece’s hormones kick in, she’ll probably change her mind. And then she’d really be in a bad situation.

So what’s the rush? Could you take your brother aside and try to get him to slow down this awful procedure?


34 posted on 10/06/2017 4:56:40 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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Saying a prayer for you.

You are in a difficult spot. However, this is not your responsibility.

While I have myself had cordial relationships with some transgenders, I would never want to expose my family members to the confusion this behavior brings.

In other words, my biggest piece of advice is to not allow any children in your care to have contact with these family members. This could force you to openly share your convictions with the whole family, with the strong possibility of being ostracized.

Lot’s of land mines here. There is no one-size-fits-all advice. But you are going to the right place when you have decided to take it to God. Keep doing that.


35 posted on 10/06/2017 4:59:36 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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