Posted on 07/21/2017 6:38:52 PM PDT by marshmallow
As an Anglican, I used to think theological liberalism was on the wane. Not any more
Anyone with a lick of sense can see that the Church of England is in serious trouble. Congregational decline, child abuse scandals, and financially desperate cathedrals are just the most obvious symptoms of a very broad disease. As an Anglican, I have been confident that the Church would manage to turn things around in a few decades. After the most recent meeting of General Synod, however, I am no longer so confident.
On the face it, the Synod’s changes were all fairly minor. For all the fuss, the proposal to write official liturgies affirming the new gender identity of transgender people may well be ignored even by Church’s own bishops; and the changes on regulation of vestments merely rubber-stamps what already takes places across swathes of the Church.
But the most significant thing about the Synod was the manner in which it was conducted. The bishops stayed largely silent as Synod did theology by endless anecdote. The only notable episcopal contributions came from the liberal northern prelates (especially Paul Bayes of Liverpool). An outburst of anti-capitalism from the Archbishop of York provided comedy value amongst the general dour air of neo-Puritanism. The monotonous drumbeat of socialism and sexual liberalism was only broken by the ecumenical contribution of Bishop Angaelos of the Coptic Orthodox Church, who warned Synod that it’s bad for PR and the soul to spend so much time talking about sex. His plea fell on deaf ears.
Leading conservative Synod members seem to have left in a state of mind verging on despair. They have suffered no major defeats, but seem confident that it’s only a matter of time. The general consensus is that the “middle third” of Synod has no more appetite.......
(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...
It happened in the 17th 18th centuries for the same reasons—spiritual corruption.
Should have split long ago.
Resisting strong delusion is hard work..
No one will miss the “Church” of England.
From the Catholic side, it used to be ‘tsk, tsk, pity the poor Anglicans/Episcopalians, but their apostasy and self-demolition could never happen to us.’ And, then, as if in direct response to our arrogance and self-regard, along came a certain Jesuit from Argentina... and we ain’t laughing so much these days.
It happened way before the Jesuit.
Francis is trying to keep up with C of E.
I was Christened in the Anglican Church and Confirmed at age 14....
Its because of my parents influence and teaching and my early membership in the Anglican Church that I am a Bible believing Christian and a Conservative today...
and no I am not an Episcopalian nor one of those so called “evangelicals” whatever those are...
I claim the term, Protestant, and I adhere to TULIP...as my Huguenot ancestors did...
I was privilege last year to attend a service in an 800 yo Anglican Church in Ipswich, England that my grandfather and generations of his forebears had been Christened and married and buried from...
The Communion service was exactly as it had been 50 years ago when I participated as a teenager in my own local church...
and the people believed and joined in still...
There may have been ugly things said about the Anglican Church but that little corner of the world the service was attended by believing Christians...
Granted they were Low Church as I had been but the practices are the same all over the world...
BTW it was at my Anglican Church as a child in the 50s that I learnt the Moslems hated me and wanted to kill me because I was a Christian...
If the churches in America had taught their members the same there might be more of a united front against the Islamic invaders today and not the pandering and egg shells that goes on in Minneapolis and elsewhere...
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
I feel badly for Mr. Sabisky. Not so much because he is right in his despair about the future of his religious confession, but rather because he does not grasp it’s current state. The CofE is, and has been for quite some time, deeply and profoundly heretical by any metric of small “o” orthodox Christianity. Arguably it is simply apostate. That he, as a self professed “conservative” Anglican, does not grasp this pretty much says all that needs to be said about how bad things have gotten there.
I remember watching A Clockwork Orange, and the prison warden asked Alex what his religion was.
Alex:"C of E, sir"
Warden: "Do you mean the Church of England?"
Alex: Yes, sir!
I know that the novel came out in 1962, and the movie in 1971, but it was very profound how the amoral thug in Alex, somehow still identified with the "C of E".
I can't imagine Kubrick (or Burgess) in his wildest dreams of the future could have imagined that his "dystopia" has actually gotten WORSE than predicted.
Post Vatican II “Catholic” church: take note. This is your future if you don’t convert (revert?).
Henry VIII’s fault.
Well “I” split. Liberals (who support queers) poison everything they touch. I won’t partake of the poison. I miss what it was, I do not miss what it has become.
Look for Pope Francis to step down. First of all he is 80. Second, he is coming close to 5 years and to back this up, there was a FR posting about a month or two ago.
So when that happens, if Benedict is still alive, the conciliar church will have two “popes emeritus”. Another way to make a mockery of the papacy.
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