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Re: Portland's Famous 'Put a Bird On It' , Oregon Christian Bakers Should 'Put a Fish On It"

Posted on 11/14/2016 8:58:07 AM PST by Be Careful

This is my solution for the Christian Baker dilemma nationwide....Make a cake for everyone....but make your product policy to include a Chrisitan fish symbol somewhere...on top, in the filling or wherever......send Christ's message into all events.

Re-Name and Re-Frame the way you market your cakes....Call your cakes "Special Event Cakes", rather than calling them wedding cakes

Pray for everyone.....Call it a 'Fish Cake'...great way to have Christ be present.

My friend who owns a hotel has the same dilemma....when he rents a room, he has no idea if the guest couple is an extra-marital affair, unmarried people, etc etc.....so sin is sin.....pray for everyone and let the Lord be the judge


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1 posted on 11/14/2016 8:58:07 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

But a crucifix on it

It worked in The Exorcist.


2 posted on 11/14/2016 8:59:40 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Be Careful

This seems to be a question of inscriptions, rather than the media upon which they are made.

Oddly enough, it might be perfectly biblical to inscribe a “bless you” cake (not blessing the “marriage” but the people).

We still could use religious freedom laws because the little snowflakes will use “civil rights” as cudgels.


3 posted on 11/14/2016 9:00:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Offer a price list with limited choices and leave out the one you don’t like. No custom offerings. Take our standard offering or go elsewhere.


4 posted on 11/14/2016 9:06:38 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Be Careful

It’s none of government’s business who bakes what for whom. Such a law is unconstitutional on its face and will hopefully all be overturned after enough rational people are appointed to the Supreme Court.

If the market becomes upset about a refusal, fine. But my guess is that decent people will take their business to them and offset any attempted bullying.


5 posted on 11/14/2016 9:07:24 AM PST by afsnco
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To: afsnco

It’s about the writing. I don’t know of a Christian yet who would refuse to sell anybody a blank cake.


6 posted on 11/14/2016 9:08:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Offer Genesis cakes and use the inscription about marriage from Genesis - works for Christians and Jews

No custom text available

And offer Koran cakes with what they say about marriage, I dont think they mention Peter marrying Paul

Offer flower cakes that customer can add his own inscription
Not a service offered by the bakery staff


7 posted on 11/14/2016 9:09:09 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

It’s about inscriptions. I’m pretty sure Pence will come up with some suitable 1st Amendment freedom law here. It’s kind of sad one needs to be drawn up, but when people won’t respect it, it needs to be spelled out.


8 posted on 11/14/2016 9:11:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Be Careful

They have options, but they should not need them. Under today’s laws, it is permissible and even reasonable to say that I must sell any ready-made cake on the shelf to almost any customer who wants it. What is not morally permissible is to say that I must make a custom cake to celebrate an event if I consider active participation in that event to be a violation of God’s law. Even with no inscription, I can see refusing to make a cake for a gay so-called-”wedding”.

Note: I personally would not refuse, but I would set the price to compensate for any distaste I felt. “This custom cake is $23,512.31, plus tax.” As a pollster, back when I took liberals as customers, I set my rates double and then triple for them. They still hired me because of my reputation, and because they assumed I was worth it. I stopped taking them as customers at all once they became so divorced from reality and I still saw that my work, even at insane rates, was helping them far too much.


9 posted on 11/14/2016 9:12:04 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

The abuse needs nipped in the bud... in the case of cakes there’ve already been attacks, and “price discrimination” would doubtlessly be attacked.


10 posted on 11/14/2016 9:14:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Be Careful

This is not about cake. This is about forcing acceptance of the homosexual agenda on everyone. The “cake” is merely the vehicle being used to accomplish this.


11 posted on 11/14/2016 9:14:14 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Offer a price list with limited choices and leave out the one you don’t like. No custom offerings. Take our standard offering or go elsewhere.

The problem with this idea as well as the the one implicit in the thread title is that you are trying to finesse your way out of a confrontation with these people.

There needs to be a direct, head to head confrontation, and the homosexual agenda people need to lose.

12 posted on 11/14/2016 9:16:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Which seemingly the “marriage” edict did.

But the secular abuse can and should be cut off at a 1st Amendment level.


13 posted on 11/14/2016 9:16:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Be Careful

Praise the Lord And Pass The Ammunition.

Jesus held back the bully.


14 posted on 11/14/2016 9:18:02 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: DiogenesLamp

It would happen at multiple levels, and not every step at once.

A good firewall of religious freedom would be the first place to begin. They can’t use the law to push anyone into collaboration in the private sphere, whatever the rules of Caesar’s offices might be.


15 posted on 11/14/2016 9:18:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Note: I personally would not refuse, but I would set the price to compensate for any distaste I felt. “This custom cake is $23,512.31, plus tax.”

Another effort to side step a direct confrontation on an important matter of principle.

The *ONLY* correct answer is " I will not do it because I don't want to."

People should have the right to run their business anyway they see fit. They don't have to explain themselves, they can just say "No", and for any reason they D@mn well please.

16 posted on 11/14/2016 9:19:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Be Careful

Actually, if you go back to the Roman period, to make the Jews happy...coinage went to Dolphins (not fish). That was the original symbol for those in the region who were Christians.


17 posted on 11/14/2016 9:19:47 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Uversabound

Gemma said:
Praise the Lord And Pass The Ammunition.

Jesus held back the bully.

Sarcasm.....xo


18 posted on 11/14/2016 9:23:21 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You nailed it. We shouldn’t have to assert our rights through subterfuge or duplicity.


19 posted on 11/14/2016 9:26:50 AM PST by IronJack
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20 posted on 11/14/2016 9:26:56 AM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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