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What Ali Represents...an alternative view
06-10-16 | Bill Randles

Posted on 06/10/2016 4:40:38 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them. Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things.( Proverbs 28:4-5)

The effusion of lavish praise being poured out on behalf of Mohammed Ali, contains a kind of spiritual portent. We shouldn’t praise the wicked.

People of every walk of life and on every continent are mourning the passing of the Champion boxer and acclaimed “Civil Rights” champion, and eulogizing him in a very spiritual manner, reminiscent of the praise afforded Nelson Mandela, Princess Diana, and Mother Teresa.

Woe to those of whom all the world speaks well of. What is it that people saw in Ali that has provoked this near messianic praise? What did Ali’s life represent that has touched such a deep religious impulse in so many “post Christian” and even secular people?

Mohammed Ali was born in 1942 as Cassius Marcellus Clay. He was named for an early Republican legislator and Abolitionist. As a child Clay attended a Baptist Church. But after Clay became famous for winning an Olympic Gold medal and becoming a successful pro Boxer, Cassius Clay turned his back on Jesus Christ, and “dropped his slave name”, a name he “didn’t choose” and converted to the Nation of Islam, taking the name given him by the false prophet Elijah Mohammed.

Ali represents the repudiation of Christianity, and of Christian America.

His so called “Slave name” was ironically the name of a famous southern Abolitionist. Ali was in fact 80 years removed from being a slave, He had never been a slave and in fact was born and raised in a free country, and given the ability and opportunity to represent that nation on the Olympic boxing team. This afforded him a career which allowed him to work hard and become a wealthy man, in the land of opportunity, America.

Part of Ali’s mythology is the story of how he was refused service in a Louisvile Kentucky restaurant. In his frustration he threw his Olympic Gold medal into the Ohio River.Wikipedia reports an alternative narrative;

Ali claimed in his 1975 autobiography that shortly after his return from the Rome Olympics he threw his gold medal into the Ohio River after he and a friend were refused service at a “whites-only” restaurant and fought with a white gang. The story has since been disputed and several of Ali’s friends, including Bundini Brown and photographer Howard Bingham, have denied it. Brown told Sports Illustrated writer Mark Kram, “Honkies sure bought into that one!” Thomas Hauser’s biography of Ali stated that Ali was refused service at the diner but that he lost his medal a year after he won it.[38] Ali received a replacement medal at a basketball intermission during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, where he lit the torch to start the games.

Mohammed Ali lost his medal, but then claimed he threw it into the river, in frustration at the racism he experienced. How many young blacks who have looked up to Ali have been further aggravated at White people because false story. Thou shalt not bear false witness. Mohammed Ali represents black rage at America, there are a lot of people just like him, willing to hate and accuse “White America” , even to the point of furthering a false narrative to justify it. Not to worry though, The Olympic committee granted Ali a brand new medal for the one he lost,( or destroyed).

Ali had a son, Mohammed Ali junior. He lives in Chicago, in poverty, and regrets never really getting to know his famous father, who left him, his three sisters and his mother, to take a second wife.

Muhammad Jr. was born in 1972 in Philadelphia to Ali, then 30, and actress Belinda Boyd, who was 17. Muhammad Jr. can’t remember ever enjoying a family meal together. Mostly, his grandparents raised him, as his father was busy boxing and his mom was acting in films.

He grew up with three sisters — Maryum and twins Jamillah and Rasheda — but when they were infants, Ali began an affair with Veronica Porsche, who became his second wife in 1977.

Mohammed Ali JR Shut Off, Living in Poverty

Does Mohammed Ali represent the sexual revolution? Is that what people see in him that causes them to mourn so deeply? Ali was married four times, and had seven children. He left each wife for the another, without regard to his children. The breakdown of all families, but especially of the black family in America is the lead indicator of poverty, disfunction and even criminality. But Mohammed Ali didn’t love his own son as much as He loved himself. He was “the greatest” remember?

To become a member of the Nation of Islam is to fully embrace anti-white racism. Ali told a predominantly white audience that he hated whites and that whites were his enemy. The nation of Islam is an obscure sect of Islam which emphasizes black supremacy. Ali was a staunch proponent of segregation and even spoke at a KKK rally.

NOI is racist to the core, Louis Farrakhan recently called for ten thousand black men to come forth and stalk and kill whites! Elijah Mohammed taught that white men were devils, and that the black man is superior in every way.

It is ironic that at the very moment that America was fervently seeking to redress its wrongs and to deal harshly with the racism and bigotry of her past, along comes the brash, mouthy, sports champion to brandish “the race card”.

Ali had a friend of some distinction, Malcolm X, another racist, hater, Muslim.But Malcolm was a man in transition, having been to Mecca and seeing people of all races gathered to worship the idol at the Kaaba. He was preparing to leave the Nation, for mainstream Sunni Islam. Ali distanced himself from Malcolm X, which allowed the “Nation of Islam” to murder Malcolm X in cold blood. (Nothing says brotherhood like Islam).

Eventually Mohammed Ali converted to Sunni Islam and eventually to Sufism. How any discerning person could regard this man as a leader, civil rights hero or a positive change agent, is beyond me.

I don’t know of any criticism by Ali of Islamic slavery in the Sudan, which exists to this day. Ai had a lot to say about the pre-civil war slavery in America, but as a Muslim he never criticized Saudi Arabia, or Yemen or the Sudan , places in which his Islamic brothers practice slavery to this day.Yet Ali is regarded as a force for freedom!

I could go on and on, as to how Ali agitated for racial hatred, and baited and weakened the nation which gave him so much opportunity, Ali’s treatment of his own family, his taunting of Sonny Liston, and calling Joe Frazier an”Uncle Tom”.God would forgive anyone who humbly calls upon him in faith, but Ali turned his back on Jesus Christ, and has spurned Christianity once and again.

This is what he represents ; the abandonment of Judeo/Christianity, interfaith ecumenism, Islamic supremacy, the bad treatment of women and his own children, ingratitude, the use of the race card, betrayal of friends when they needed him(Malcolm X), and keeping racial hatred stoked.

Yet people praise him to the high heavens.Would you want an interfaith funeral? I hope not.

I think in summary, Ali represents the Spirit of AntiChrist. The adoration of this bad man in death is similar to the pseudo messianic adoration of Obama when he was running for office(Shortly before he destroyed this nation and her credibility).When people who aren’t Christian, and in many cases are actually atheistic, or Muslim or Bhuddist, or nominally Christian, all agree in their adoration of a human being, it speaks of the coming time when they literally worship a man called “the Beast”, an evil and deceitful man who is opposed to God and Christ,as Ali was.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. … For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.( 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12)

Oh did I mention he was a pretty good boxer? We can’t forget that!


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: ali; jesus; mohammed; usa

1 posted on 06/10/2016 4:40:39 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

The meme of Saint 'Ali' is being pushed by all the media networks

He was in his own mind, a good man, held to his principles,
and had integrity,..but he was just a man.
Gone to meet his god. RIP
2 posted on 06/10/2016 4:49:06 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Was a long week, bringing back memories of the two week extravaganza of the dead junkie Prince.


3 posted on 06/10/2016 4:52:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Mofia is a private crime family; whereas, the DOJ is the gov't's political crime family.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Yes, he (Ali) was great, but I liked Jimi Hendrix a lot better.


4 posted on 06/10/2016 4:56:30 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

The irony is that both Mohamed and his uncle Ali were both slave masters...


5 posted on 06/10/2016 5:05:41 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Ali was a good boxer, but I had no respect for him. He was a draft dodging muslim. I did not dodge the draft. I didn’t worship a false god who promotes all manner of ill toward us infidels and this country.


6 posted on 06/10/2016 5:31:38 PM PDT by umgud
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To: pastorbillrandles

Thank you for your frequent Biblical messages on Free Republic.


7 posted on 06/10/2016 5:36:29 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
This Hero Worship sucks.

The only heroes are war heroes and that includes every soldier whoever served.

8 posted on 06/10/2016 5:41:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pastorbillrandles
I think in summary, Ali represents the Spirit of AntiChrist.

Glad to see that FR purged so many of those Cruz crackpots and narrowed down to sane, serious posters! /sarc

9 posted on 06/10/2016 6:39:04 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Why are you still here?


10 posted on 06/10/2016 7:30:33 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Henry Hnyellar

Good question.

Ali was a boxer. Hero? No. Ali was not a hero. ESPN carried the funeral today for two hours. Bill Clinton was there along with Arnold S. I am confident that the ratings for those two hours were dismal and low.


11 posted on 06/10/2016 10:21:57 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: umgud

He is not deserving of all the respect, abandoned his own children, draft dodger while my (white) cousin took a bullet for him in Vietnam so he could make millions boxing and running his mouth. He was an obnoxious isiot.


12 posted on 06/11/2016 7:38:46 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: pastorbillrandles

The iconic Ali, like his successors Mandela and Obama, have done more to foment racial hatred and distrust than anyone before them. Their movement can be seen today around the world. South Africa has been burning the last few weeks as a testament to their message...


13 posted on 06/11/2016 10:59:56 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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