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Posted on 04/10/2016 3:20:22 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
When Muslims are involved in recommending a reformation they come across to me as heretics and apostates that can't abide by the religion they were born into.
Instead of leaving Islam they want to change it to make it more palatable to modern thinking and take out the murderous parts of Islam, and to tone it down to where, as Rodney King would say , where we could all get along regardless of our religious beliefs or non-beliefs.
Having read a lot about the fundamentals of Islam I am of the conclusion it can't be reformed to make it less fatal to us non- Muslims.
Here is why. Simply because Muhammad set the examples of how to practice the religion as told to him by God's messenger, the angel Gabriel. Muhammad is too well documented to be easily discredited as to how he practiced Islam.
People try to change Islam by questioning the writings in the Koran. They say it don't tell the whole story, or it wasn't written in just Arabic it was partially written in Syriac, Aramaic or combinations of different languages and has to be reinterpreted.
Muhammad is a very well documented individual, and to me the problem with that for reformists, is Muhammad was illiterate and couldn't read anything. So he got his marching orders on how to implement Islam, not from the Koran directly, but from Allah via the angel Gabriel.
Basically Jihadists don't need the Koran. If you are a believer, just follow the example set by God's prophet Muhammad in the Hadiths. We also have 1400 years of Kafir slaughters by Muhammad and the Muslims who followed him, to emphasize that Allah wants us Kafirs killed, if we don't convert to Islam or pay protection money and feel subdued. And that hasn't been changed since Muhammad's time.
Islam has been reformed in the past, and it has been by people like Wahabb, in the 1700s, and more recently by ISIS to get the Muslim slackers back into following the examples of Muhammad and force the religion and Sharia Law on us Infidels, and kill Muslim heretics and apostates.
Trying to reform Islam to getting away from the basics , to me, is a waste of time.
How can anyone “reform” a religion? That is not possible.
A (false) religion is started by a person. That person lays out what the beliefs are, and people follow. You can’t change that.
Unless you can resurrect the (false) prophet Mohammed, have him come back and change his mind and establish new tenets of the religion, it is what it currently is. You can’t rewrite what he wrote.
The only thing a peace seeking muslim can do is have a look at islam, realize it’s a violent front for world domination, and renounce it. I would suggest they have a look at Christianity, the true religion of peace.
The violent, murderous world-expansionist movement can’t be reformed. It has to be eliminated.
They will not stand for reform and those who try will be executed, nuff sed of reform. Besides it is a military tactic and not a religion
“Basically Jihadists don’t need the Koran. If you are a believer, ......just follow the example set by God’s prophet Muhammad in the Hadiths.
We also have 1400 years of Kafir slaughters by Muhammad and the Muslims who followed him, to emphasize that Allah wants us Kafirs killed,.........
if we don’t convert to Islam or pay protection money and feel subdued. And that hasn’t been changed since Muhammad’s time.”
If we made radioactive that ROCK THEY WORSHIP it would help !
The LORD walked around with a dozen guys preaching love and forgiveness
Mo HAM MED got a few hundred sword wielding killers,set forth to the North to a Jewish village and wiped it out..SAME for the next many centuries !!
SALAMI ALA BACON to all of his followers !
Nuclear reformation is the only hope for islime.
Exactly. It must be eliminated in our country and in Europe first. This goes way back to Ishmael.
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The only reformed Islam acceptable is one left behind and renounced. Pray for their salvation...one at a time. Pray for more visions of Jesus...a man from Kazikstan attends our church and is seeking, asking questions...no, I am very careful and see he is not a bomber...he will be saved. He talks like Andy Kaufman (Yadka from Taxi). Reformed Islam does not exist. Saved, former Muslims are the answer and praying for our protection and it is valid to pray like David...for God to smite them who will not change...Muslims included.
We will find
sooner or later
if Achmed’ll pray
to a glowing crater
Nuclear reformation islam is the only hope for us.
The Mohammad Factor
If you condemn murder you condemn Mohammad.
If you condemn thievery you condemn Mohammad.
If you condemn rape you condemn Mohammad.
If you condemn pedophilia you condemn Mohammad.
If you condemn terrorism you condemn Mohammad.
If you condemn Mohammad you condemn Islam.
I think the US should emphasize the right to choose one’s religion, or no religion at all. Islam does not allow this.
This could be seen as a reforming of Islam, or as undermining Islam through a valid principle. Either way, we should push for this basic right at every opportunity. In the US, this can be a matter of law, vigorously enforced in Muslim communities if need be.
You cannot reform a scam created by a degenerate intended to give license to him to indulge his perversions.
Elimination is the only kind of reform I’d feel comfortable about.
The question of reforming Islam seems to be inherently missing the boat: Islamic Law, inseparable from Islam, is not irrational.
People in the West may disagree with various punishments or assessing something to be a crime, but that does not mean that Islam actually encourages irrationality ... indeed, when one looks at the actual facts about what led up to the first Fort Hood incident, rather than the PC whitewash, what you find is expressly a rational approach to the demands of Islamic Law on the part of the perpetrator. He even served notice before hand, after a fashion.
By contrast we find that it is the politically correct nitwits who just will not allow that actions of Muslims are about Islam and Islamic Law, even though they expressly are, who are acting irrationally.
As for Islam, that “bad Islam” people want to say needs reforming, that it is is not merely rational, but arguably Islam, that leads to the conclusion that the call for a reformation is a call for what many Muslims would rightly consider to be apostasy.
So am I saying that all militants are rational?
No.
Just that what is called militant Islam is not, at least for those calling the dance at the pinnacle of that movement, the domain of madmen.
Certainly not the way that political correctness has become the domain of madmen.
It is actually the latter that should be especially worrisome to us, for they represent the very thing that progressively disarms us against anyone who would take their Islamic Law very seriously, even soberly.
Their unwillingness to simply let Islamic Law be shown for what it is, and thus admit that Islamic Law is all too often a very clear motive behind militant actions, may be rooted in a desire to seem tolerant (by their standards) ... but it must not be forgotten that militant Muslims see themselves as trying to be good as their doctrine defines it.
That’s what I mean by disarming us.
If we are not permitted to know our enemy, because that would be intolerant, while they are free to understand us ... that’s not a position that any rational person wants to be in.
Sun Tzu would simply NOT approve of the political correctness crowd.
So what are we faced with?
So far I have avoided simply stating that Islam is an outpouring of the spirit of antichrist, so I will be blunt: the problem with Islam is not that it is centuries old (according to the prejudices of post modern men) but its ultimate author.
So I’ll here say that we are faced with those trying to be good, only according to a doctrine of the spirit of antichrist ...
... and those trying to be nice and inoffensive.
Truly, we are between a rock and a dumb place.
The reason Islam doesn't allow that, is Allah forbids that type of thinking and Muhammad sets te example of how t deal with Kafir who think that way.
Doing what Allah wants done trumps everything , country, family, tribe etc.
Americans should be educated about Islamic beliefs and Taqiyya so we have a better idea on how to deal with it.
A good start would to keep Muslims from immigrating to this country since Muslims should not be respecting our man made laws and should want to impose Sharia and their religion on us to please Allah. -Tom
Education is key.
I know an American Muslim, and I believe I know more about Islam than he does.
Defending islam is knee jerk and personal.
Mohamed was flat out evil.
We have movies of Jesus. We need movies of Mohamed. He is a historic figure. The Islamic world needs a clear eyed view of what their religion is. Let the sun shine on Mohamed. Let them see him rape a nine year old girl on the big screen. Let them defend that, and stop playing the victim.
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