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Is Catholicism about to break into three?
Crux ^ | October 6, 2015 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 10/07/2015 2:02:53 PM PDT by NYer

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To: maryz
How do you pronounce “sedevacantist”?

I pronounce it "dipstick"

41 posted on 10/07/2015 4:03:48 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: HomerBohn
Very happy that for the past 28 years I have been regularly attending a real mass at a Sedevacantist chapel.

I looked that up....just another group who think that they are more qualified to interpret Catholicism than are the other 1.5 billion Catholics.....sigh

42 posted on 10/07/2015 4:06:42 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL..)
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To: Paladin2
Martin Luther was Right.

Becoming a priest, yes....after that, not so much...probably costing the souls of more people than any other person in history.

43 posted on 10/07/2015 4:10:31 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Yes, we are in the End Times:

For the DOW too it seems:


44 posted on 10/07/2015 4:25:31 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: BlatherNaut
Pope St. John Paul II defined SSPX as a schismatic movement and summarily excommunicated its ringleaders (LeFebvre, Castro de Meyer, de Mallerais, Fellay, Williamson and de Gallareta). That Benedict XVI saw fit as a matter of ecclesiastical mercy to lift the excommunications of those still living and not the dead Lefebvre and did NOT lift the declaration of schism and did not affect SSPX's status as schismatic. Subsequently Fellay and the the other survivors, upon what "authority" we may only speculate, purported to excommunicate Williamson, the Holocaust denier.

Note that the notorious heretic Maguire feels no compunction to oppose SSPX, SSPV, or the "churches" descended from the Utrecht heresy of the mid-19th century. Nor do we often hear SSPX, SSPV, etc., objecting to heretics like Maguire. What have they all in common? Contempt for papal authority. Natch!

45 posted on 10/07/2015 4:29:48 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: verga

High five!


46 posted on 10/07/2015 4:30:51 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: ADSUM

Unless Maguire repents as publicly as he has sinned. after his death he will likely be living somewhere considerably hotter and more permanent than Wisconsin.


47 posted on 10/07/2015 4:37:17 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: ADSUM
Maguire was one of those big brave men who had the courage to attack unborn babies.

What a miserable corrupt mind he exhibited.

48 posted on 10/07/2015 4:48:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("All times are dangerous times." St. Teresa of Avila)
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To: BlackElk

I really wish these people had the courage to admit that they are really protestants.


49 posted on 10/07/2015 5:50:58 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: NYer

I could be wrong, because I couldn’t stand to read it all, but I didn’t see Longenecker ever mentioning that the “progressive,” Nancy-Pelosi-type “Catholics” are fanatically pro-abortion. The code-words for that are that they “care passionately about the marginalized, blah blah blah.”


50 posted on 10/07/2015 7:09:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: ichabod1

If the “Son” and the “Spirit” both proceed from the Father, then their relation to the Father is the same, and thus there would be two “Sons” or two “Spirits.” There would be nothing to distinguish the Son and the Spirit. If there is nothing to distinguish and the two, they can’t exist. IOW, it’s impossible.


51 posted on 10/07/2015 7:13:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: BlackElk

“Declaration of schism”??? By JPII???

I’m not aware that any such declaration ever existed.

The excommunications of SIX people occurred, because of the illicit episcopal ordinations.


52 posted on 10/07/2015 7:27:24 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: NYer
We really need some more of these Protestant denominations created, because we're running a little low in them right now...

:-)

53 posted on 10/07/2015 8:02:21 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ( "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: BlackElk
Pope St. John Paul II defined SSPX as a schismatic movement and summarily excommunicated its ringleaders

"Ecclesia Dei" mischaracterizes "disobedience" as a "schismatic act". Equating "disobedience" with "schism" was unprecedented prior to JPII's modernist papacy. It is clearly an erroneous conflation.

54 posted on 10/07/2015 8:07:14 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: verga

Yes, I wish Francis would do that. It would save us all a lot of trouble.


55 posted on 10/08/2015 2:34:47 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: BlackElk
Nor do we often hear SSPX, SSPV, etc., objecting to heretics like Maguire

This only shows that you really don't know what these groups say or don't say/believe or don't believe.

56 posted on 10/08/2015 2:38:57 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: terycarl

At least I don’t know of any Sedevacantists who rant about their beliefs. As a group I believe they’re aware of the evils that are being exposed in what passes for Christianity in today’s world. As a group they worship God in the way that existed before the creation of the new self-centered religion.

The disintegration of the Roman Catholic Church emanating from the Vatican has been ongoing for over 50 years. It has morphed into something that accommodates the modernists’ thinking in regards to morals and not how Jesus Christ wanted his followers to live their lives.

It will all be revealed to us individually after we leave this life, but the problem is we won’t be able to tell those left behind.


57 posted on 10/08/2015 4:05:42 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Sea Shell; Salvation
DW, you're right! Salvation sent me this link to a speaking pronunciation dictionary.

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=sedevacantism

Years ago, I read a book on linguistics (by Jesperson, maybe?) that argued there are hundreds of words in English that were simply not part of the spoken language; he based this on the observation that dictionaries disagreed on the pronunciation.

58 posted on 10/08/2015 4:06:57 AM PDT by maryz
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To: terycarl
...he has done nothing to weaken Catholic teaching and has merely expressed his own opinions...

Au contraire, mon ami. (A little French lingo there to demonstrate my fondness for little froggies.)

He should have stayed in Buenos Aires.

Historically, whenever any pronouncements in regards to faith and morals emanated from the Vatican, the entire Christian (and Judaic) world paid particular attention.

There are many things wrong with this human being, but catering to homosexuals and lesbians (I recognize no other abnormal behavior) and espousing his admiration for a one world government AND the global warming lie, places him firmly in the camp of those who secretly loath Christianity as well as mankind for that matter.

59 posted on 10/08/2015 4:14:27 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Go to your bishopric’s website and usually you’ll find them listed under ‘excommunicated’ or ‘schism’.

Many Sedevacantist churches and chapels make their principal mass of the day available live on the internet. They can be found by googleing ‘Latin Mass’, or ‘Traditional Roman Catholic Mass’. Worshippers who don’t have a traditional Church available in their area can follow along with their missals and be rewarded instead of feeling condemned by the new religion.


60 posted on 10/08/2015 4:21:05 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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