Posted on 09/24/2015 1:11:33 PM PDT by metmom
This is very like a conversation I was having earlier with my son. I observed that a lot of people hear the Gospel and just don't like it. It's not a set of simple steps to a life of ease: it's about being conformed to a Savior who lived in poverty and then suffered and died, all for the good of others.
Tozer ping
The flesh resists dying.
Small wonder people don’t like it.
So many people are afraid to boldly state (as the bible does) that God is love.
Love (of a pure, holy kind) drives whatever God does. What we are tempted to think are exceptions really are not.
This is the all-explaining factor of Christendom. Without it, all you get is a lot of egotistical propositions, and frankly not even Tozer manages to escape that conundrum.
Exactly.
If there is a good reason to cause it to, or let it die, we yet will. The problem is that Christendom pussyfoots all around that reason today. It slights the ego of Christendom.
It's not clear to me exactly what you mean by this. Can you give a specific example?
I say stop and pray and ponder on it.
I understand if you’re at work or something and don’t have time to expand on and illustrate your point. I personally have a teenager looming over me (she’s quite a lot taller) with a sewing project.
So what is the solution, what does God really want?
Revelation 2:4-5 But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Probably get rid of the shallow superficial programs and activities that we engage in and to stop being so ingrown, and get back to the business of going and making disciples, like He told us to.
Revelation 2:4
But I have this against you, that you have left your first love.
I just KNEW I shudda read ahead!
There’s a difference between a Christianity you can be proud of, and a Christianity that you’re madly in love with God through. Let me put it that way... and frankly I am familiar with some of Tozer and it looks like he’s biased towards the first.
Remember the reason God wants those disciples (learners is a better rendition of the original Greek word — disciples tends to sound like someone who is following men, not God). It is kin to the root of the word mathematics, which is a system of thought that makes SENSE. God is love, do the math... that’s Christian faith.
Evangelical churches (some), for a long time now, have been trying to keep people interested with entertainment gimmicks. Rock music, wealth magic, sin causes...they want to seem hip.
That is what is boring. God is not boring, they just are too busy with nonsense to know Him anymore. I hope they get a grip.
“So what is the solution, what does God really want?”
Evangelize, NEW SOULS!!!
Our people are lazy they come to services to get their Scripture reading. Our pews are full every Sunday, but when it comes to the foot game well it’s the same folks every time. While it does get discouraging at times that is not my mission. My mission is to spread the Good News, the Gospel, and the Truth and let the Holy Spirit do the convicting and saving. Holy Spirit I am your mouth I plant the seed of Christ Jesus, but I know that you will water, fertilize, and prune as needed, Praise the Living God.
A true Christian should be in the word reading every single day. Church should be for fellowship and planning our next lost soul’s campaign. If we don’t spread the Good News WHO will? Please don’t tell me you don’t have time five minutes can always be found, but in all reality it’s all about priority. If you prioritize Jesus Christ and fill in you calendar with his activities first I can promise the rest will fall in place.
Oh before you condemn me just know this I was guilty also. TV, news, email, and every excuse that Satan can find tries to pull us away. The Word is your sword and your shield use it!
Put your FAITH first and I promise you that he will fulfill you with more that you can ever imagine. You must put that first foot forward blind faith. Sorry for the rambling the Spirit was kicking hard.
I am never bored during Mass. So much is happening that it is amazing, not boring.
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