Posted on 08/14/2015 7:10:38 PM PDT by marshmallow
Proceedings of an un-publicized series of workshops at the Vatican earlier this year reveal controversial conversations taking place ahead of this fall’s Synod on the Family.
There is a storm warning ahead for the Ordinary Synod on the Family, scheduled for October 2015 in Rome. Can there be “the possibility of an evolution of the ecclesiastical doctrine of marriage” in the Catholic Church without the Synod fathers “betraying their own traditions”? That evolution is the goal of some prominent theologians and canonists who met for three separate workshops earlier this year, under the auspices of the Pontifical Council for the Family.
Tdivorziati Risposati: In Un Volume la Riflessione Piu Avansata, published by the Libreria Editrice Vaticana (LEV), is a guide to the three workshops. The book was reviewed in the July 25 issue of the Italian Catholic magazine Famiglia Cristiana; the review details the proceedings of those workshops that, while perhaps not “secret,” were not publicized by the Pontifical Council for the Family. Unlike the semi-secret, but unofficial, “Shadow Council” held at the Pontifical Gregorian University in May, no members of the press were invited to the workshops.
The workshops were held in January, February, and March of this year. LEV’s 500-page compilation of the proceedings purports to outline the most “advanced reflection” on the relationship of the family and the Church, particularly on the hot-button issues that sparked controversy during the preliminary Synod on the Family in October 2014.
When the mid-point relatio of that preliminary synod was released to the public last year, Catholic observers and even some synod participants learned that novel “pastoral” initiatives had been proposed, including openness to homosexual “gifts” and a “pathway” for the divorced and remarried to be permitted to receive Communion.
The debate over Communion for the remarried caused.....
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The liberals are taking my country away and now are trying to take my Church away. If the Church’s magisterium formally embraces moral heresy, my only consolation will be to give up the expectation of progress in this life. The Church is outside of time, and Our Lord did ask if he would find faith on earth upon his return. Perhaps history is a long defeat, as Tolkien said. Of course Our Lord also told St Peter that the gates of hell won’t prevail against the Church, so I will assume somewhere the faithful Church will perdure, and it will have some connection with Peter’s successor.
Religion is a construct of Man, and thus cannot be expected to endure.
The True Church endures, regardless of the ways of Man.
You’re saying exactly what the dissidents are saying - the Church or, better, the Faith is an arbitrary construct, and God has no particular will for man.
The Chuch needs dogma and it needs moral law because the Church was created by God to guide, sustain and protect man from evil and to help man adhere to God’s will for him. Pope Francis and his cohort are trying to destroy it and say that man is on his own and there is no will of God for him and that the Church is just an organization that is supposed to make him feel good and approve whatever he wants to do.
Complaining about religion as the construction of man seems to me a bit like the folks who say they don’t want to get married because “it’s just a showy ceremony and a piece of paper.”
When you hear of a married couple who have their little rituals, do they seem less loving or more loving because of it?
What I'm saying is that a church and a religion are susceptible to the evil that men do. So too is the 'piece of paper' which signifies marriage– this is why 'gay marriage' is so absurd; the piece of paper is a construction of man, not God. Gays are no more married in God's eye than a goat or a bird.
Giving secular government the power to confer a contract is one thing; believing that the contract represents God's will is the mistake that mortals (and weak-thinking) 'Christians' make.
If a religion– or the actions of a group of people who call themselves a church– troubles us, all we need to do is pick up a bible and be a church of one.
Casting it in terms of "traditions" is deliberately misleading. The issue is not "traditions" but the clear words of Jesus regarding the indissolubility of marriage, and that marriage is between a man and a woman.
Thanks for explaining. But since "ecclesia" is the New Testament word for "church", and it means something like "assembly", I really don't see how the church of one idea fits in with that.
What I'm taking issue with (and if you are not arguing this then great) is the whole idea that we need to dispense with religion and churches entirely. I sometimes see folks arguing that on here.
I wouldn't say entirely, but the herd could use some thinning for sure.
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