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What to do if you missed the Rapture
Youtube ^ | July 15, 2015 | Ed Hinson

Posted on 07/26/2015 8:55:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Here is yet more information, for those who miss the Rapture and are here after the event. This is for people, not any particular congregation of people. Please, think about it ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: opinions; rapture; tribulation
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To: imardmd1

Science fiction covering a lack of understanding.

“Gnostic” LOL.


801 posted on 08/03/2015 4:33:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

More quibbling and wrangling. Thanks, but no thanks.


802 posted on 08/03/2015 5:04:30 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: MHGinTN
Make sure everyone knows that He was, is, and from now on always will be fully human and fully Divine, at all times and places!
803 posted on 08/03/2015 5:09:56 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Well, I’m fully human, but I haven’t the Human 2.0 update yet. But I’m ready, rapture ready!


804 posted on 08/03/2015 5:19:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Yeah, Amen, Bro! Even so, Lord Jesus; I beg You — Come!


805 posted on 08/03/2015 5:25:47 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
I have a question that has been asked of me several timesa nd I have not had a good answer, so I'm gonna ask you:

Will the Rapture snatch away babies and children, also? A couple of people have quoted the passage where Jesus says 'woe to those who give suck', in other words, those mothers with babies at their breasts.

I'd be interested to read your opinion on this.

806 posted on 08/03/2015 5:42:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
Will the Rapture snatch away babies and children, also?

Boy! That's a real good question! I sure don't have an off-the-cuff answer to that, but I'll ponder on it and see if any real spiritual answer surfaces. But include in that the thought, "What about a woman true believer who has a new life yet growing in her body? Hmmm.

Let us know if you find any clues, eh?

807 posted on 08/03/2015 7:49:33 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: MHGinTN
Not the sort of flesh you are familiar with. Jesus has a body that can eat and drink. He is a being of higher dimensional capabilities than you or me now. But when we see Him we will see Him as He really is because when we see Him we will be like Him. Refer to the Physics lesson Jesus gave to Philip in John 14, to see how this works. If you have questions about it, I will be glad to share a few data points which God has given me over the decades.

The other poster said "flesh and bone". Will flesh and bone be in the Kingdom of God?

808 posted on 08/03/2015 9:54:59 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: imardmd1

Quibbling is all you do.


809 posted on 08/03/2015 9:55:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: imardmd1

Whoa, you posted another poster’s rude comment as mine! It was not my comment, comment to him.


810 posted on 08/03/2015 9:57:16 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Well, the answer is obvious since Jesus is in Heaven and has flesh which He told Thomas to touch to confirm He was real not a ghost. The 4D flesh is corruptible and according to Paul must put on incorruptibility.

In our current body we are in constant regeneration via the blood stream and the intake of nutrients and cleaning out dad cells and waste chemistry. This what makes our current flesh corruptible. When we die our bodies decay back to the elementals. An incorruptible body will not be sustained in the same way as we are now.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

As 4D beings we can see things that have 4D essence. Jesus is greater than a 4D being now. He can be in 4D or out of 4D essence at will. When He appears for the Rapture the passage above seems to indicate that we will be transformed into beings able to see Him in His greater than 4D state. In that greater state it is likely we shall draw our energy from the zero point field rather than the storage of said energy via animal flesh and vegetable flesh. {Yes, the vegetable we eat is expressed as 'its' flesh.} But we will be able to be in 4D spacetime just as Jesus can now, because we shall be like Him when We see Him coming for us to return to the Father's House.

811 posted on 08/03/2015 10:08:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
Well, the answer is obvious since Jesus is in Heaven and has flesh which He told Thomas to touch to confirm He was real not a ghost. The 4D flesh is corruptible and according to Paul must put on incorruptibility.

When Jesus went up with Peter, James, and John, He was transfigured for a moment so He could speak with Elijah and Moses, and then took on the flesh again, when the conversation was over. So the form He took when He returned from the tomb was probably temporary also, although He could go through walls, unlike flesh.

812 posted on 08/03/2015 11:01:19 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: imardmd1
whereas on the other hand your unscriptural point of view of justification as a process with no salvation security in Jesus and His Preserved Word, but in the end it all hinges on one's own effort:

False; my view is scriptural and upholds all the words of the Messiah; works, works, works, which spring from hearing and obeying Messiah.

We can't agree, so let's just leave it at that.

If you say so; Messiah will judge in righteousness and equity.

813 posted on 08/04/2015 5:59:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Bold emphasis mine

And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty nine,
as authorized, but not authored by, King James

814 posted on 08/04/2015 6:48:16 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Conversion is not a life long effort, it is an immediate response BY GOD to the heart that calls out to Jesus to be their Savior. BUT being raised up in the way that we newborns should go, THAT is a life long process.

The evil one has raised up so many flashy avenues for pleasing the old man, designed to distract us from the leadership of The indwelling Holy Spirit of Promise God puts in the human spirit at the moment we are born from above. [For graphic illustration of the Grace process of instant Conversion, see Acts 2 and Acts 10:38-45]

And those distractions come at us from all directs, including the religious systems. And it is successful in first eroding then corroding, then rotting, as so clearly illustrated with the Episcopal church.

But one can try to work their way to eventual Salvation ... God allows one to choose, but warns us to choose wisely, not depending upon our pride-filled works to earn what God offers as His Grace not our earnings.

815 posted on 08/04/2015 7:58:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: af_vet_1981
One can work their way to perdition or trust Him to be Savior and Lord. Your choice.

As exhibits of how it works, see the Day of Pentecost preaching (Acts 2) and the Holy Spirit entering those who believed the message that Jesus is Messiah, He came in the flesh and died for our sins; on the third day God raised Him up to establish the absolute validity of a new covenant with mankind, in which the believer in Jesus has his/her sins wiped from the record and God's Spirit comes to indwell the believer for the rest of their life on earth. There is a similar exhibition of the process in the House of Cornelius (Acts 10:38-45).

I'm sure the magicsteeringthem has a twist on those scenes which supports their works based religion system, but the scenes are really quite straightforward that believing in the heart is the response God honors with immediate spiritual cleansing and a new creation indwelt by His Holy Spirit.

One can try to work, strive, trudge their way to that status, but the Bible is clear that you can never achieve it while God offers Salvation on His terms in return for simply believing Jesus is The Deliverer and is the ONLY means for salvation and newness of spirit.

The Holy Spirit searches hearts during this Church Age (that's spiritual Church, not Baptist or Episcopalian or Presbyterian, or Methodist, or Roman Catholic or Pentecostal, etc. ). Where He finds a heart believing Jesus is the Savior and that heart calls out to Him for Salvation, The Holy Spirit immediately cleanses that one and leaves a spark of the Holy Spirit of Promise in the human spirit so cleansed by the blood of Jesus. That one is then in Christ, a new creation.

And yes, I read it in the BIble and THE BIBLE gets it right. Try it, you'll like it! Even Mikey likes it! Of course, one can keep striving in secret pride of self. God allows the choice. But His Word warns us not to reject so great a Salvation given by The Grace of God in Christ, for there is no other way given unto man whereby he may be saved. That Grace cannot be earned no matter how faithful one might be to a sacramental trail.

816 posted on 08/04/2015 8:00:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; editor-surveyor
I am sorry, PG. My Post #791 was meant to answer your Post #768, which contained the line which you wrote as follows:

Whoa! Flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

This line should have been the one appearing at the top of my Post #791 replying to your Post #768, to which #791 was meant to respond. Instead, a line from the next post after yours, the #769 from editor-surveyor, mistakenly appeared there.

I apologize, beg your pardon, and ask you to overlook this error. Would you please read the text of #791 composed by myself as the answer to your #768? Thank you.

817 posted on 08/04/2015 3:22:33 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Oh, okay. No prob.


818 posted on 08/04/2015 9:51:40 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: imardmd1
Yeah, well as I said to the other poster in the last few hours, Jesus met with Elijah and Moses on the Mount of Transfiguration, transfigured for the moments He was speaking with them, then came back down the mountain with the three disciples again in His flesh body. So just because He was a form of flesh (that could walk through walls) in the few days He rejoined the Apostles, doesn't mean He went to Heaven that way. I would imagine Elijah and Moses (or Enoch) will take on the flesh again when it is their time to die in the "plaza" of Jerusalem as the two witnesses, but at the moment they are transfigured as Jesus was for those few moments as He stood with them on that mount.

When the bible says "flesh and blood", I think it means no flesh, not even "flesh and bones".

819 posted on 08/04/2015 10:01:20 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MHGinTN
Will the Rapture snatch away babies and children, also? A couple of people have quoted the passage where Jesus says 'woe to those who give suck', in other words, those mothers with babies at their breasts.

As an anti-rapturist, I hope you don't mind my view on this but "woe to those who give suck" means when Christ returns he expects His people to be spiritual virgins, the virgins who kept oil in their lamps. If instead they are nursing along Satan's works after whoring with Satan, instead of waiting for the true Christ, indeed woe on those who were supposed to be spiritual virgins. They will pray for the mountains to fall on them.

820 posted on 08/04/2015 10:10:00 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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